how to install newest version of gnome-disk-utilty in Waldorf

wanakutia · 2014-01-06 08:17:06

Hi everyone,

I need to know the way to install newest version of gnome-disk-utility - if there is one, without making your system unstable.

My point is, that I was using this utility, while on Lubuntu, as a tool for quick overview and to perform simple tasks like power-off device or manage auto-mount opt. etc.

Unfortunately, version provided by #! repo is 3.0.2 (as far as I remember) and this version has no such options. I was wondering, if there is a way to upgrade this package to version 3.10, or just newer than in official repo.

Thanks for any replies!

Last edited by wanakutia (2014-01-06 08:18:57)

iann · 2014-01-06 12:43:26

Short answer: you compile your own.

Sid has 3.10 but you'll have a bear of a time shoe-horning it into Wheezy. Jessie, too, maybe slightly easier, but it will still pull new versions of some fairly key libraries, not ideal if you crave stability.

Even building your own may be tricky if there are dependencies on advanced features not provided by your existing libraries, which is quite likely with a gnome app.

Sector11 · 2014-01-06 15:14:25

@ wanakutia

OK, not gnome-disk-utility (has a ton of dependencies) ... and I see an answer above regarding that so I'll make a pitch.

Since #! (99% of Linux Distros) comes with gparted, format, change partitions that takes care of that part of what GDU does, take a look at disk-manager for the other stuff you want:

 06 Jan 14 | 11:50:52 ~
    $ sho disk-manager
Package: disk-manager             
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 1.1.1-2
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Uncompressed Size: 675 k
Depends: python2.6 | python2.7, python (>= 2.6.6-7~), python (< 2.8), python-gtk2, python-glade2, menu
Recommends: dmsetup
Description: simple graphical filesystem configurator
 Disk-Manager is a simple filesystem configurator that allows you to: 
 * Automatically detect new partitions at startup. 
 * Fully manage configuration of filesystem. 
 * Enable/disable write support for NTFS (needs ntfs-3g installed).
Homepage: http://flomertens.free.fr/disk-manager/

 06 Jan 14 | 11:51:26 ~
    $

Disk Manager

- - the only thing --> power-off device <-- that's not there.

Doesn't thunar-volman handle that?

 06 Jan 14 | 12:03:15 ~
    $ sho thunar-volman
Package: thunar-volman            
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Version: 0.6.1-1
Priority: optional
Section: xfce
Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers <pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 1,005 k
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libexo-1-0 (>= 0.5.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0), libgudev-1.0-0 (>=
         146), libnotify4 (>= 0.7.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libxfce4ui-1-0, libxfce4util4 (>= 4.3.99.2),
         libxfconf-0-2 (>= 4.6.0), thunar (>= 1.1.1), exo-utils
Description: Thunar extension for volumes management
 The Thunar Volume Manager is an extension for the Thunar file manager, which enables automatic management of
 removable drives and media.
Homepage: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-volman

 
 06 Jan 14 | 12:03:35 ~
    $

Just my 2¢ worth.

Last edited by Sector11 (2014-01-06 15:15:32)

iann · 2014-01-06 15:22:18

thunar-volman doesn't really *do* anything. It detects when various removable media devices get connected and allo9ws you to configure events to occur at those times. There are simple events that can just be checked such as mounting, or run-your-own commands such as burning a DVD or importing from a camera.

wanakutia · 2014-01-06 17:59:33

Thanks for reply guys.

Iann wrote:

Short answer: you compile your own

I will not even try to compile anything, I'm not up for the task. I tried compile kernel 3.9 and all what I done, throughout the 1000 questions quiz, was pressing the enter key - I stopped only on additional languages and additional drivers for Nintendo... honestly it is as intriguing as interesting task and very 'Linux way', but I will need a pretty detailed guidance to do it...
However, if there are any resources you know about, to help with compiling gnome-disk-utility to the never version, it is worth to put those links right here - at least for others enthusiasts.

Sector11 wrote:

Since #! (99% of Linux Distros) comes with gparted, format, change partitions that takes care of that part of what GDU does, take a look at disk-manager for the other stuff you want:

Naturally, GParted is definitely one of the best and if I want to mess with partitions - only gParted.
I tried disk-manager, but I got the same through the file manager: launch program and click on drive to mount it. It doesn't even shows you position of partitions on the disk.

So, it looks like I need to start edit fstab manually.

Conclusion: for time being there is no way to upgrade gnome-disk-utility to newer version (like 3.10) without compiling.
Closest alternatives: GParted, disk-manager.

Thanks everyone!

damo · 2014-01-06 18:13:43

Editing fstab is quite straightforward. Try Arch wiki

Compiling CAN be extremely easy - a simple application is very different from a kernel smile

wanakutia · 2014-01-13 20:32:42

damo wrote:

Editing fstab is quite straightforward. Try Arch wiki

That's right fstab is easy and powerful, gives you more control over atime and removable media and many more.

Damo wrote:

Compiling CAN be extremely easy - a simple application is very different from a kernel

If it's easy as you say, than I shall try. Would you give me any resources to start with or guide me through?

Many thanks

brontosaurusrex · 2014-01-13 20:47:21

Looks very gnomish, requires udisks2, I wouldn't even try (But I can be wrong as well).

p.s. http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/ … for-linux/

wanakutia · 2014-01-14 09:17:46

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Looks very gnomish, requires udisks2, I wouldn't even try (But I can be wrong as well).
p.s. http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/ … for-linux/

Well, after reading this articles I have to say that I'm no longer even interesting with usage of gnome-disk-utility. For me it suppose to be a handy and helpful tool, a time-saver - nothing else. However, if installing 'disk' may bring other, bugy gnome-friends with him and puts my system in jeopardy, than it's not even worth of considering.
As author mention:

It appears that increasingly udisks is becoming an internal Gnome component and less a universal Linux tool, certainly not command-line friendly

This decline of Linux is being enabled by desktop environments like Gnome and KDE which seek to replace core Linux tools with their own too-good-to-be-true tools, then change these tools to demand that more of their desktop environment be completely installed, security problems, bugs, and all. Lightweight apps get drawn into this cycle using the likes of gvfs and udisks, which renders them bug-ridden and bloated. Users then have to sacrifice their system security and performance to use them at all

Somehow, I though that 'disk' is more universal tool than element of elevation in gnome environment... Obviously, I was mistaken.

I'm trying to avoid, as much as I can, installing softwares - even very handy like Dolphin, which pulling half of different environment with them.

Thanks a lot for that info!

iann · 2014-01-17 20:49:47

gnome-disk-utility has a number of issues even if you install all the dependencies. For example it ignores the system settings and tries to launch Nautilus to view files, with no obvious way to make it do something more sensible. It also lets users format hard drives and other dangerous actions without explicit authorisation. Now that might seem nice, but really is it sensible?

So what does it do and what alternatives are there? Well there are the SMART functions, fairly easily replaced by smartmontools. Plus gsmartcontrol if you want a GUI. Some functions need root privileges, but you can sudoers or suid it if it becomes a nuisance since it doesn't do anything too dangerous. There is a gsmartcontrol-root which is a script that performs su-to-root before running gsmartcontrol. Weird!

palimpsest (the gnome-dsk-utility program name) also allows for formatting, partitioning, etc. Nothing that gparted doesn't do better.

It can also do ejects but so can most file managers, including Thunar, and other tools if you want.

Lastly there is the benchmark button. It is a raw drive benchmark, meaning it bypasses the file system. So it provides a nice quick measure of actual hardware capabilities, including read, write, and seek timings across the whole disk. Write testing can only be done on unmounted partitions. There are a whole range of benchmarking tools out there, but nothing that is a direct replacement for this so far as I know. Most tools measure file system performance, which is a better measure of real world performance, but they tend to be more complex than most people would need or understand. The only really simple alternative is hdparm and that is really *too* trivial.

So, nice if you want to go the whole Gnome hog including Nautilus, but easily replaced if you want to stay lightweight.

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#1 2014-01-06 08:17:06

how to install newest version of gnome-disk-utilty in Waldorf

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