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#1851 2012-11-10 19:51:55

stavros
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

machinebacon wrote:

Stavros, in this case join siduction and we can maintain it there together. (BTW we also have our own kernel) Though I think MATE has no official Sid or development branch, and honestly I don't know if there's much more development to come (I don't mean their mate-color-picker support or something like this) and I can't imagine siduction wants to bet on a 'dead horse' (no offense, I love MATE). They seem to be more interested in razorqt for example, because it is actively developed (and recently upgraded). MATE is not much work to maintain, if their applications simply follow the transition from Gnome 2.3.


Mate is not dead yet, there seems to be interent from the Mint team. I am looking at the razor/siduction spin but the choice of apps is terrible. E.g. leafpad has no unicode support, osmo (?), practically unknown qt apps etc. Trying to make a lite Qt distro but with that kind of apps its not going anywere. GTK apps are more common and trusted.

Also I am font of XFCE and if there could be a MATE-XFCE merge that would be cool.


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#1852 2012-11-10 21:33:44

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Some people should not install too many distros, it is just confusing.  cool

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#1853 2012-11-10 22:03:07

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Or at least to have multiple partitions setup and an understanding of grub before setting out on the Hop journey.

1 partition for your favorite/best distro, and where grub should live.

1 partition for home

1 partition for swap

1 partition for Hop Bopping..

and if 4 is not enough, create an extended partition and create four more partitions for Distro tests.


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#1854 2012-11-10 23:47:15

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Just an appology to machinebacon. I guess my lack of linux/knowledge got to me a bit. Was a ltlle bit frustrated. Anyways, I have figured everything out now, and I installed the Saltimbocca 686 non pae, without any issues. That one also installed grub to sda7 without any error. The wifi bit was very easy to figure out, I missed the little buuton for prefernces the first time. Now I am online and ready to roast or deepfry this distro. Any other issues that might occur I will adress at the linuxbbq forums, and not here. The only little issue I have now is that my norwegian keyboard settings has not stuck, but if thats the only issue, then I guess I will figure it out...

First screenshot just to prove that I am online with BBQ

2012-11-11--13525900311280x800scrot.png


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#1855 2012-11-11 01:01:17

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

VastOne wrote:

Or at least to have multiple partitions setup and an understanding of grub before setting out on the Hop journey.

1 partition for your favorite/best distro, and where grub should live.

1 partition for home

1 partition for swap

1 partition for Hop Bopping..

and if 4 is not enough, create an extended partition and create four more partitions for Distro tests.

LOL. In my defence I have to state that I actually do just that...  Crunchbang as my favourite distro and thats where the grub lives. Then I add entrys for the other distros in the grub.d custom file... Easy peasy, no problems there. Now Ive started to roast bbq, but since I havent figured out how to get norwegian keyboard in xsession, its slowing me down. The result of using the keys on my keyboard doesnt match, and its especially difficult in terminal where you need different signs .... Do you have a tip for me on this.... I found something on the arch/forums, setxbmap or something like that, but it didnt recognize the command..


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#1856 2012-11-11 05:10:42

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

setxkbmap no &

put it onto openbox's autostart and run 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard'. some desktop environments have their own keyboard layout chooser, like xfce, kde or gnome. wm-only systems need to go another route. you can also put it into the system's startup mechanism (/etc/xdg/autostart/ and create a .desktop file)

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#1857 2012-11-11 16:17:06

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

ew wrote:

LOL. I have downloaded a bunch of the bbq releases. I first tried Saltimbocca, but it didn`t like my system. I tried every option in the install menu, but every option failed. Right now I have burned a cd with Oyster and are going to try it now. Then I thought that Specdrum looked interesting, and that linux-bbq snapshot tool looked extremely interesting...

Don't blame user error  on the distro!

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#1858 2012-11-11 21:01:43

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

machinebacon wrote:
setxkbmap no &

put it onto openbox's autostart and run 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard'. some desktop environments have their own keyboard layout chooser, like xfce, kde or gnome. wm-only systems need to go another route. you can also put it into the system's startup mechanism (/etc/xdg/autostart/ and create a .desktop file)

Thanks. Maybe put it there, together with

startx &
setxkbmap no &

???? Or....


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#1859 2012-11-11 23:05:58

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

@ew: No, "startx" starts an X session but you are in X already with openbox, so you put the "setxkbmap no &" into Openbox's autostart file.

What you mean is to put it in .xinitrc, but there without ampersand. Use Openbox autostart, really.

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#1860 2012-11-12 00:50:30

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Thanks a lot. Now I`m also starting to belive that Linuxbbq rocks. I`m only just started roasting, but I love it already:)


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#1861 2012-11-17 00:41:07

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Distro-hopping is an addict that I can usually can live with, but after trying 4-5 linuxbbq distros,
and salix, slimpup, pear, semplice, debian, and a few others in just the last few days, perhaps it`s
time to go to rehab big_smile

Even worse, when I downloaded Linux Mint Debian XFCE earlier today, I was  totally chocked.
The installation media was over 1.1 GiB, and as if that wasn`t enough, the update manager told me
that I had a few updates to do, 1132 to be exact... almost 900 MB. I guess it must be nearly every package
in the repo`s, and I who ususally complain about MS Updates when I reinstall Windows. It has sometimes
surpassed 100 updates, but 1132???

Well, it better be worth it. No need to comment, I just had to get it out  roll


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#1862 2012-11-17 18:01:57

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

One of my favorite little distros GALPon MiniNo 2.0, is out now.

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#1863 2012-11-17 23:33:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

ew wrote:

Thanks a lot. Now I`m also starting to belive that Linuxbbq rocks. I`m only just started roasting, but I love it already:)

I wonder why there is no mention of the "meat" spins in distrowatch..


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#1864 2012-11-18 01:58:01

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

stavros wrote:
ew wrote:

Thanks a lot. Now I`m also starting to belive that Linuxbbq rocks. I`m only just started roasting, but I love it already:)

I wonder why there is no mention of the "meat" spins in distrowatch..

Yes, it`s a bit strange. Maybe there is to few who use it, and most of them make it into something else, so it`s not just one distro...


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#1865 2012-11-18 02:08:57

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I`m afraid to say that I actually liked Xubuntu XFCE 12.10. Not Debian, but still:)
A bit dull by default, but after 5 minutes of pimping, I quite like it.

screenshot-11182012-021612am.png

The only bad thing is that everything works..., not much to do, besides pimping:D

Well, off I go. LM-Debian XFCE next. Hopefully I will get some trouble with that one:)


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#1866 2012-11-18 02:32:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

stavros wrote:

I wonder why there is no mention of the "meat" spins in distrowatch..

because its not fully roasted yet
besides, you want everybody to enjoy the mighty q?
be greedy devil


So come up to the lab...
And see what's on the slab

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#1867 2012-11-18 08:58:36

intoCB
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on another partition after #! for those days when I feel like a slow Mac-like DE experience. Once you strip it of all that suggesty/shoppy nonsense and give it a decent third-party wallpaper and icon set, it's not half bad for a slow Mac-like distro.

The only thing is Ubuntu has taken over grub, which I fully expected but don't really want. Everything on my HDD is a logical partition inside the extended partition. How would I get grub back on to CrunchBang? Can I restore it from within CrunchBang? I know how to change the priority within Ubuntu but that would still keep the Ubuntu grub page, which I don't really want. I just want to keep Ubuntu as a shiny toy.


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#1868 2012-11-18 09:04:10

intoCB
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Got that wrong. Ubuntu sits on a primary partition after the extended.


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#1869 2012-11-18 09:40:30

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Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Boot into #! and run as root

grub-install /dev/sda 
update-grub

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#1870 2012-11-18 09:52:10

intoCB
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Cheers


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#1871 2012-11-18 10:02:30

stavros
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Posts: 41

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

apprentice wrote:
stavros wrote:

I wonder why there is no mention of the "meat" spins in distrowatch..

because its not fully roasted yet
besides, you want everybody to enjoy the mighty q?
be greedy devil

yeah, I want to see more people in debian / debian based distros !


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#1872 2012-11-18 13:00:10

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

SimonHoare wrote:

Just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on another partition after #! for those days when I feel like a slow Mac-like DE experience. Once you strip it of all that suggesty/shoppy nonsense and give it a decent third-party wallpaper and icon set, it's not half bad for a slow Mac-like distro.

The only thing is Ubuntu has taken over grub, which I fully expected but don't really want. Everything on my HDD is a logical partition inside the extended partition. How would I get grub back on to CrunchBang? Can I restore it from within CrunchBang? I know how to change the priority within Ubuntu but that would still keep the Ubuntu grub page, which I don't really want. I just want to keep Ubuntu as a shiny toy.

Yes, but I installed Xubuntu, not Ubuntu. With XFCE 4.10 it`s far from slow.  The Xubuntu install didn`t take over grub with me. But I chose to manually partition it, and installed grub to sda7(in my case) instead of installing it to mbr on sda. Perhaps you chose the option to install it side by side with your existing OS. Never do that. Always choose "Something Else", and do it manually. That way you can get it exactly as you want to:)


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#1873 2012-11-18 16:09:18

intoCB
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I would normally have done "something else" but I was feeling a bit lazy and the nice slidy thing just looked so nice and slidy.

How do you choose grub during manual partitioning? I'm not new to manual partitioning but I never worked that one out. Mucking about with the boot flag brought no joy.

Xubuntu's nice. It's my back-up system of choice. As Sneekylinux says: "It does what it says on the tin".


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#1874 2012-11-18 16:21:13

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Not sure what Xubuntu uses, but any decent installer should/would give you the option of installing grub to the mbr OR /dev/sdX of your choosing.


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#1875 2012-11-18 18:03:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^^ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ … -downloads

Ubuntu's alternate installer gives you the option to install either grub or lilo anywhere you want. It is identical to Debian's text-based installer, and it lets you install all the official *buntu flavors.

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