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#1 2012-11-16 04:44:36

benginm
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From: Underneath!
Registered: 2012-11-11
Posts: 488

[Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

Salutations, cool

So , i was trying to install empathy IM client , right!

it pulls-off other
          packages ( brasero - cheese - evolution ) , almost like these packages
          are tied to empathy .

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So i though this could be coming from a metapackage , but that can not be .. as i haven't installed any metapackage.



I  tried " haylo's " suggestion to disable them as been Recommends .. as he thought they were  " Recommends "  .. but it turned out that's not the case as if .

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seems to me like they were Gnome'ish packed or something!
      
it's annoying! .. am trying to figure out if they were packed as is from debian , or coming from #! side .

I don't get it , someone help me understand this! where is this coming from?

I just need Empathy smile

Last edited by benginm (2012-11-16 13:28:38)

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#2 2012-11-16 06:54:53

benginm
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Registered: 2012-11-11
Posts: 488

Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

So , i went to #debian to discuss this further  more .. here is the fun part  cool it goes like :


someone said : sary empathy depends on nautilus-sendto-empathy, which
          depends on nautilus-sendto, which depends on nautilus, which depends
          on brasero


I said : you mean  nautilus-sendto-empathy depends on > nautilus-sendto >
          depends on empathy depends on > brasero
      
      sary> how can a single stand alone program depends on an extension, yet
          depnds on anoth stand alone program!
      
      someone said: easily

then another someone said : nautilus-sendto deps on nautilus. brasero deps on nautilus.
          n-s-empathy deps on n-sendto. empathy recommends or suggest
          n-s-empathy. this is gnome for you wink


So it all went down to " this Gnome'ish for you "

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#3 2012-11-16 07:10:40

benginm
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Registered: 2012-11-11
Posts: 488

Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

I told them , i don't use gnome nor nautilus .. hat was the bump!

I apt-get --no-install-recommends install empathy telepathy-gabble telepathy-salut telepathy-haze

# please mark this as solved . thank you .

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#4 2012-11-16 07:33:18

orionthehunter
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From: Japan
Registered: 2011-04-09
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Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

You can mark this as solved yourself.  Edit the first post and you can add [solved] to the title.

Furthermore, this is whats known as the "Gnome Dependencies"  They are the baggages associated with gnome-specific applications, and a large reason for the existence of distributions like Crunchbang, which eschew their use.

Similarly there are KDE Dependencies, which are similarly huge and annoying.

+1 for your self-solution and Linux education :-)

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#5 2012-11-16 13:25:39

benginm
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Posts: 488

Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

Thanks orion , i totally switched my mind to use any  IM CLI based clients ..

I've found out about " Bitlbee , CenterIM "  .. probable will try 'em tomorrow.

also , Rhytmbox pulled out another gnome madness deps! glasses
so again, my mind wouldn't go far beyond any CLI based music player  .. found out about moc today and berrie the other day .

cool

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#6 2012-11-16 15:20:18

orionthehunter
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Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

I love moc player.  Brilliant, simple, powerful.

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#7 2012-11-17 00:39:46

benginm
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Registered: 2012-11-11
Posts: 488

Re: [Solved] Epmathy IM Clinet !

orion , Yeah tell me about it B! smile

I got on it today ..  irssi-bitlbee within screen , moc on anothr window!

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Last edited by benginm (2012-11-17 00:57:04)

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