Getting XFCE back in Crunchbang

rhowaldt · 2011-12-22 11:21:04

what i don't really get is: what's to stop anyone from using the 'old' Statler release instead of the point release? i am an Openbox user but am still not switched to the point release, because i don't see the point (haha!). so wouldn't the same go for #! XFCE? just stay with Statler. ok, i get future updates, but i think with Corenominal being how he is, he might just as well bring XFCE back into the mix sometime in the future.

Sector11 · 2011-12-22 12:04:43

siva.devel wrote:

Feel terrible and guilty this thread being still alive. Is there way to delete it?
./Siva

Don't feel bad at all ... it put a fire under some to suggest helping people and or talking about getting XFCE in Cruncgbang.

As the OP of this thread you have the ability to goto the first post and Edit the Subject just as people do when questions are [Solved].

So in the first post change the subject:

Corenominal Bashing from dropping XFCE

for something like:

Getting XFCE back in Crunchbang

That's an example!

ivanovnegro · 2011-12-22 13:59:51

@sqlpython: Thank you for your comments.

snowpine · 2011-12-22 14:11:17

rhowaldt wrote:

what i don't really get is: what's to stop anyone from using the 'old' Statler release instead of the point release?

1. Not available for download anymore, officially (but still out there being torrented)
2. Not supported by the developer: No updates to the crunchbanglinux.org repos since February. So you are responsible for your own manual kernel/browser/flash/etc updates to run a secure system. I know you can handle it, but it might be intimidating/dangerous to a new user.

ivanovnegro · 2011-12-22 14:16:21

@snowpine: One simple thing I would do if I were still on #! Xfce from February. I would remove the #! repos. All security problems will be gone. Add the backports if you need a newer kernel or some software like LibreOffice. You will now run a plain Debian Stable. The artwork of #! should still be available for you as it is installed, if you prefer the newer artwork from the November release, grab the debs for it.

I see no security problems, but yes, you are outside of the official #! and rather on Debian.

hinto · 2011-12-22 15:09:09

xeNULL wrote:

I haven't read the entire thread but I find this extremely stupid. I know this doesn't apply to most of you but who the hell finds it too much to type "sudo apt-get install xfce4"? and with an alias for sudo apt-get install in your ~/.bashrc its even more simple and no bashing philip here! lol he made all this possible in the first place.

If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Isaac Newton

rhowaldt · 2011-12-22 15:36:54

@snowpine: thanks for the explanation. @ivanovnegro: agreed, i must go do just that.

snowpine wrote:

I know you can handle it, but it might be intimidating/dangerous to a new user.

you think too highly of me. look at my joining date here; that was the date i first installed Linux. smile

sqlpython · 2011-12-22 15:38:46

corenomial can do what he wants. It's his distro. I appreciate the fact that his desire is to produce the best Openbox distro out there, and he has done it. However, I think that the reason that people are disappointed is that #! XFCE was completely PnP. I did almost zero tweaking after installing #! XFCE on my new laptop. Whereas typically with almost any other distro, I would spend quite a bit of time finetuning

IMO You have hit upon the kernel of the issue.
Corenomial has produced a formidable OpenBox that requires very little tweaking for New Users to Linux or New Users to OpenBox. (I installed OpenBox and Added Xfce4 but required only iwlagn mod install for a complete install)
... Note though that Users are more likely to move from Xfce4 or LXDE to OpenBox then from KDE, Gnome or especially a Win DE environment. The Linux Ranks are smallish. The OpenBox ranks even more so. If the mission is in part to grow the Linux ranks then an alternative DE at install is a big Plus. However if the mission is only or primarily, to just make a Great OpenBox Distro, then he is well on his way to that singular goal.
As an acquaintance once reminded me when I encountered a business obstacle that I did not appreciate.....
He said, "You have choices. You always have choices."

Sector11 · 2011-12-22 17:01:04

sqlpython wrote:

corenomial can do what he wants. It's his distro.
IMO You have hit upon the kernel of the issue.
He said, "You have choices. You always have choices."

Well said.

I came to #! with v9.04 - from Xubuntu. I loved Xfce - but my computer was running slower and slower with each upgrade (P-III 256MB RAM) #!. v9.04 was a blessing and I have since been converted to OpenBox. Mind you since v10, I have installed;

a. Xfce as a second session, then later for a very short while,
b. dual booted #! OB and #! Xfce but ... I came back to my pure OB #!

The #! XFCE was how Xfce was meant to be run IMHO. Lean, mean and fast! And would have definitely given any XFCE Distro out there a real run for the money. And why not it had corenominal's name on it.

From everything I have read, other OpenBox distros are copying #!. That's the kind of excellence that corenominal has put into his distro.

I remember someone telling me a long time ago, I was still using Xubuntu, if you try OpenBox, there is no going back. For me, he was right!

VastOne · 2011-12-22 17:10:47

rhowaldt wrote:

but i think with Corenominal being how he is, he might just as well bring XFCE back into the mix sometime in the future.

Or someone creative will develop a cb-welcome like script to handle all of the Xfce installation

You rhowaldt, have come a long way in the short period of time you have used Linux, well done

Last edited by VastOne (2011-12-22 17:11:31)

Awebb · 2011-12-22 19:11:39

VastOne wrote:

You rhowaldt, have come a long way in the short period of time you have used Linux, well done

A dedicated mind is without limits, it seems.

sqlpython · 2011-12-22 19:12:12

(P-III 256MB RAM) #!. v9.04 was a blessing and I have since been converted to OpenBox.

with 256MB of ram OpenBox is where you want to be. Just an example of OpenBox being the Best DE for a particular Application.

rhowaldt · 2011-12-22 19:27:33

thanks VastOne and Awebb, for your kind words. i appreciate it.

siva.devel · 2011-12-23 02:30:42

Thanks Sector11. Just did what you suggested and now I feel better.

Sector11 · 2011-12-23 13:56:48

siva.devel wrote:

Thanks Sector11. Just did what you suggested and now I feel better.

And it turned out to be a decent thread.

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