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#1 2011-11-23 15:30:07

Wolfsfell
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Registered: 2011-11-23
Posts: 5

"taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Good day,

First I'd like to mention, that I am from Germany, so my English isn't very well. This is why I am going to poste my problem in german and also trying to describe it in Englisch.

I use Crunchbang XFCE 32-bit (what more information is needed?)

Ich bin vor kurzem auf Crunchbang umgestiegen, und war auch sehr zufrieden (auch wenn ich doch dazulernen musste, um meine "Lieblingsprogramm" zu installieren, und auch sicher noch nicht ausgelernt habe). Allerdings habe ich letztens das Aussehen der Taskleiste verändern wollen. Bis ich die Funktion gefunden hatte, war erstaunlich viel Zeit vergangen, zumal die Lösung (glaube ich) im Rechtsklicken der Tastkleiste oder so ähnlich bestand. Blöderweise habe ich auch mit diesem Arbeitsschritt zwei Häkchen gesetzt bzw. umgesetzt, deren Funktion ich mit Ausprobieren herausfinden wollte (Nutze das System auf Englisch, zum Selbsttraining). Dabei wurden Arbeitsflächen auf die gesamte Taskleiste gestreckt und die Fenster "minimiert" dargestellt, statt wie vorher als kleine Fenster in den Flächen. Seitdem blitzt die Taskleiste beim STart nur noch 4 mal kurz auf, und ist dann weg - "stürzt scheinbar ab".
Nun meine Frage: Gibt es eine Konfigurationsdatei der "Taskleiste" (wie auch immer das korrekt in Linux heißt), in der ich das wieder rückgängig machen kann?

And now: Try it in English. I changed to Crunchbang! not long ago, and I'm very happy with it (even if I had to learn some things, to get my "favorite programs" running, and I am still learning). Some days ago I tried to change the view of the "taskbar". Some time went past, until I found the solution to change it (wasn't it just rightclicking the taskbar? unfortunenaly I forgot, how I did it). Unfortunenaly I also changed two options in the same menu. I wanted to discover, what they are changing, by "learning-by-doing", because I am using Crunchbang! in English (for improving my English). After that the workspaces were stretched over the whole taskbar (before they were "small screens" in the left corner of the taskbar) and the windows (first little windows in the "small screens") were like "minimized" in this "workspace-fields". Since then, everytime I am restarting the PC the taskbar flashes up 4 times and never comes back. It seems like it is "crushing". I am really sorry for not beeing able to describe this in a more understandable way.
So here is my question: Is there any configuration-file, I can open and edit, so that I can "undo" the changes I did and get my taskbar back? I don't want to reinstall the whole system just because I don't get my taskbar back.

Grüße/Greetings, Wolfsfell smile

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#2 2011-11-23 15:45:01

rhowaldt
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Registered: 2011-03-09
Posts: 4,396

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

hi Wolfsfell, and welcome to the community. please don't worry about your English, you are very understandable and excusing yourself for it will never help with improving. just speak/write.

it might be useful to you to know the taskbar is called tint2 (that will help Googling). you have editted the Tint2-config file, and something went wrong. i personally don't know what exactly, i am still a bit of a noob as well. however, when you right-click on the desktop you should get a menu, where you can go Settings > Tint2 > edit tint2 config file (or something like that - can't check, not on Linux now). there you could try setting the changes you made back to how it was.

maybe someone else knows exactly where you went wrong.

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#3 2011-11-23 15:49:09

xaos52
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Registered: 2011-06-24
Posts: 4,602

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Hi Wolfsfell,
I think you explained the problem very well.
You can find default #! config files in

/etc/skel/.config

Your description of the problem makes me suspect that the config file for tint2 was edited and now cauuses problems.
You can restore the original tint2 config file by entering this command in a terminal window:

cp -v /etc/skel/.config/tint2rc ~/.config/

You can then restart tint2 with the following commands

pkill tint2
tint2&

hth

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#4 2011-11-23 15:56:41

kowloonboy
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Registered: 2011-10-13
Posts: 443

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

@Wolfsfell

Are you using XFCE-panel? http://www.xfce.org/projects/xfce4-panel

Or are you using tint2?http://code.google.com/p/tint2/

Because you can use either, in the xfce.


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#5 2011-11-23 17:51:45

Kexolino
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Registered: 2011-06-13
Posts: 293

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Hello, and welcome to #! smile

The XFCE panel's workspace switcher applet has an option to show just the small "screens" or the names of the workspaces. Right-clicking on that should bring up the applet's menu, and you can get the old look back from its settings dialog.

Also, if you set your panel to be fully transparent, it's still there, but you can't see it at all. This can also be changed back from the panel's settings dialog.

If the panel is not just transparent and really not there then you could press alt+f2 and write

killall xfce4-panel

and then press alt+f2 again and write

xfce4-panel

If you remember, you could also tell us which settings you changed. And maybe post a screenshot, if you can.

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#6 2011-11-24 10:50:06

Wolfsfell
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Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Good Day,

now knowing that I am using the tint2 Panel, I first tried to restore it like xaos52 described it. Restoring didn't worked, restarting did. So at the moment I have the panel back, when I am restarting it.
The tint2-settings-menu I can reach when I am right-clicking the desktop, is only for changing the theme of the panel.
I am still not able to get in the menu for the tint2-panel, because I can't right-click the Panel (there is no free space on the panel, only the workspace-fields and the tray-symbols).
okay, let's get back to the problems with restoring the config-file. In my /etc/skel/ folder is no .config folder, but I found a tint2-config on this forum. now my question: where ist the actual config-file of the tint2-panel?

Here's a screenshot of my desktop:
Screenshot_-_2411

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#7 2011-11-24 11:17:16

kowloonboy
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Registered: 2011-10-13
Posts: 443

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

The location o f the tint2 config is

~/.config/tint2

This is the default #! tint2 config, I loved it so much, I kept it.

#---------------------------------------------
# TINT2 CONFIG FILE
#---------------------------------------------
# For more information about tint2, see:
# http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Welcome
#
# For more config file examples, see:
# http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/3232/my-tint2-config/

# Background definitions
# ID 1
rounded = 0
border_width = 0
background_color = #282828 80
border_color = #000000 0

# ID 2 - task active
rounded = 1
border_width = 0
background_color = #575757 80
border_color = #575757 80

# ID 3 - task
rounded = 1
border_width = 0
background_color = #282828 0
border_color = #282828 0

# ID 4
rounded = 1
border_width = 1
background_color = #888888 20
border_color = #ED2323 60

# ID 5 - taskbar
rounded = 2
border_width = 0
background_color = #282828 0
border_color = #282828 0

# ID 6 - active taskbar
rounded = 2
border_width = 0
background_color = #222222 80
border_color = #222222 80

# ID 7 - tooltip
rounded = 3
border_width = 0
background_color = #222222 90
border_color = #222222 90

# ID 8
rounded = 1
border_width = 1
background_color = #888888 20
border_color = #888888 20

# Panel
panel_monitor = all
panel_position = bottom center horizontal
panel_items = TSC
panel_size = 100% 28
panel_margin = 0 0
panel_padding = 0 0
panel_dock = 0
wm_menu = 1
panel_layer = bottom
panel_background_id = 1

# Panel Autohide
autohide = 0
autohide_show_timeout = 0.3
autohide_hide_timeout = 1.5
autohide_height = 6
strut_policy = follow_size

# Taskbar
taskbar_mode = multi_desktop
taskbar_padding = 6 0 6
taskbar_background_id = 5
taskbar_active_background_id = 6
taskbar_name = 1
taskbar_name_background_id = 0
taskbar_name_active_background_id = 0
taskbar_name_font = monospace 9
taskbar_name_font_color = #575757 100
taskbar_name_active_font_color = #d8d8d8 100

# Tasks
urgent_nb_of_blink = 20
task_icon = 1
task_text = 0
task_centered = 1
task_maximum_size = 40 40
task_padding = 2 2
task_background_id = 3
task_active_background_id = 2
task_urgent_background_id = 4
task_iconified_background_id = 3

# Task Icons
task_icon_asb = 90 0 0
task_active_icon_asb = 100 0 0
task_urgent_icon_asb = 100 0 0
task_iconified_icon_asb = 90 0 0

# Fonts
task_font = monospace 06_55 6
task_font_color = #d8d8d8 60
task_active_font_color = #d8d8d8 100
task_urgent_font_color = #FFFFFF 100
task_iconified_font_color = #d8d8d8 60
font_shadow = 0

# Launcher
launcher_padding = 8 4 4
launcher_background_id = 0
launcher_icon_size = 24
# Specify icon theme names with launcher_icon_theme. 
# if you have an XSETTINGS manager running (like xfsettingsd), tint2 will follow your current theme.
launcher_icon_theme = gnome-colors-statler
# Each launcher_item_app must be a full path to a .desktop file
launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/terminator.desktop
launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/xfce4-file-manager.desktop
launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/iceweasel.desktop

# System Tray
systray = 1
systray_padding = 4 2 3
systray_sort = ascending
systray_background_id = 0
systray_icon_size = 24
systray_icon_asb = 100 0 0

# Clock
time1_format = %H:%M:%S
time1_font = monospace 8
time2_format = %A %d %B
time2_font = monospace 6
clock_font_color = #d8d8d8 100
clock_padding = 4 4
clock_background_id = 0
clock_lclick_command = gsimplecal
clock_rclick_command = gsimplecal

# Tooltips
tooltip = 1
tooltip_padding = 2 2
tooltip_show_timeout = 0.0
tooltip_hide_timeout = 0.0
tooltip_background_id = 7
tooltip_font_color = #d8d8d8 100
tooltip_font = monospace normal 8.0

# Mouse
mouse_middle = none
mouse_right = toggle
mouse_scroll_up = toggle
mouse_scroll_down = iconify

# Battery
battery = 1
battery_low_status = 20
battery_low_cmd = notify-send "battery low"
battery_hide = 96
bat1_font = Sans 10
bat2_font = Sans 8
battery_font_color = #FFFFFF 100
battery_padding = 2 0
battery_background_id = 0

# End of config

"To me, the extraordinary aspect of martial arts lies in its simplicity. The easy way is also the right way, and martial arts is nothing at all special; the closer to the true way of martial arts, the less wastage of expression there is." - Bruce Lee

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#8 2011-11-24 11:21:07

xaos52
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From: Planet of the @s
Registered: 2011-06-24
Posts: 4,602

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

tint2 uses
$HOME/.config/tint2/tint2rc
as config file.
So, to restore the original version and restart tint2, you should run following commands in a terminal window:

cp -v /etc/skel/.config/tint2/tint2rc $HOME/.config/tint2/
pkill tint2
tint2&

My apologies for the wrong command yesterday, I wrote it down from memory. Will have to run memcheck one of theses days. smile

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#9 2011-11-24 11:27:56

machinebacon
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Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Another point: the config folder is hidden, in a file manager press Ctrl-h to make hidden folders visible. (hideen folders and files start with a '.' like .config)

There should be a margin at the top of the screen, 1 px wide, on which a right-click brings up the menu, too.


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#10 2011-11-24 17:48:28

Wolfsfell
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Registered: 2011-11-23
Posts: 5

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Hello again smile,

okay, I changed the config file to the default settings (it looked nearly like before). It didn't work. Then I tried to uninstall and reinstall tint2. Also did not work.
I manipulated the config file by myself, then changed it to the configuration I found on http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure. Still not working. Seems, like it is not the configuration file, that makes troubles? Also I think, it shouldn't be tint2 itself, because I reinstalled it. Don't know what to do.. But many thanks for helping me so far smile.

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#11 2011-11-25 05:11:44

machinebacon
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Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,825
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Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

I use Crunchbang XFCE 32-bit

Hello,

I have the feeling that it is xfce4-panel, and not tint2, which you had used. Have a try in a terminal:

pkill -9 tint2 
xfce4-panel &

Wasn't it this panel? You can revert it back to tin2 by closing the terminal, pressing Alt-F3 and enter tint2


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#12 2011-11-27 22:43:32

Wolfsfell
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Registered: 2011-11-23
Posts: 5

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Good Evening,

ok, looking backward I'm impressed how I missunderstood my pc.
you're right, Die-hard, it is the xfce4-panel. (now I also know, why tint2 did not start on startup, even after reinstalling it and manually changing the configfile).
I started it the way you told, it ran, i changed the preferences (disable grouping tasks and show tasks fom all workspaces), and now it starts normal.
two questions I have left now: what changes the "&" in the terminal and how can i change the panel starting on startup? I'm thinking of the tint2panel now, because I found out, how to config it smile.

Thank you for the great support.

Greetings, Wolfsfell

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#13 2011-11-28 05:07:00

machinebacon
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From: China
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,825
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Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Maybe you simply want to use the Openbox environment, because that uses tint2. To do so, log out, click on "Session", pick Openbox, and enter your password to log into Openbox. You can choose this to be your default.

You can of course use tint2 as default in an XFCE session, to do so you pkill -9 xfce4-panel and start tint2 then right-click (menu) -> Settings -> Sessions & Application Start-Up -> Session (save the current session)
I don't use XFCE4 anymore so I don't know if the names all fit, but it is definitely in the Settings menu, and quite obvious something with "Session"


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#14 2011-11-28 07:29:35

Wolfsfell
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Registered: 2011-11-23
Posts: 5

Re: "taskbar" missing - Taskleiste ist verschwunden

Thank you very much smile.

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