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#1 2011-09-07 21:33:58

wb4bbc
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Registered: 2011-03-02
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Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

I am trying to set up a friend who is leaving Ubuntu because of all the 6 month releases, he dies not want to keep reinstalling and just wants to get the updates. He is looking for a rolling release either Linux Mint Debian or Crunchbang . So when the next version of Debian comes out, we can just do a sudo system upgrade ? .. Thanks for the Help.



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#2 2011-09-07 22:00:31

sunfizz98
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Registered: 2011-05-12
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

I don't think crunchbang is a rolling release, but it can be smile  Is he looking for a debian squeeze (stable) or something more unstable/cutting edge?

"sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" might be all you really need.

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#3 2011-09-07 22:08:12

snowpine
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

Welcome to the forums! smile

CrunchBang is not "rolling release" because it is based on Debian "stable." Debian "Squeeze" has about  2 years support left, equivalent to 4 Ubuntu releases or 1 Ubuntu "long term support" cycle.

But you can make #! "rolling release" by changing your sources to "testing" or "unstable" as you can read here: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/forum … gunstable/

Personally I am a "stable" guy but I wish you the best! smile


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#4 2011-09-07 23:17:09

wb4bbc
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

I think I got my terms and Ideas confused, drinks more coffee. what he is wanting is a stable os, does not care about the latest and greatest. But what he is wanting is a way to upgrade the system when the next version comes out in 2 years or when ever. The reason he is looking for something like this is he hates to setup the laptop , he wants to work, he moved to linux because of all the malware and virus problems he had and the downtime that was involved to repair,scan,update ect ect. Example of this is when the computer rebooted to apply a update and he lost a good amount of his report he was working on for work. I though he was going to lose his mind with windowsxp. He likes the dark and calming desktop of crunchbang, cause he says he does not like to have a busy desktop.


Hope that clears it up
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#5 2011-09-07 23:22:12

psyco430404
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From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Registered: 2011-07-04
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

Oh then yes its very easy, you just change your repos, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade big_smile.


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#6 2011-09-07 23:23:18

ivanovnegro
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Registered: 2011-06-02
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

^ Yes, normally you can just upgrade your system, like in Ubuntu but not every 6 months, so it would be the OS for him.

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#7 2011-09-07 23:23:53

CBizgreat!
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Registered: 2011-07-27
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

^They already beat me to it o course. Plus know a shizzleton more about it than I do in the bargain. Nah ... not rolling, but imo ... putting ubuntu to shame. Resists one of my patent pending anti-buntu rants. Personally despise canonical/ubuntu. Most overrated, overhyped and undeserving gnu/nix distro known to humankind. Bloated + Buggy = buntu. In addition to not having to update religiously with #!, giving someone more time to actually use their computer. Seems like another important advantage CB has, it's STABLE. So updates aren't going to constantly break something or be crawling with bugs, release to release that breaks something.

(edit) Well there's buntu's LTS releases. Someone could stick with those and no doubt cut down on bugginess and updatitus. But that still leaves the other major downside of buntu ... BLOAT to deal with.

With #!, provided someone takes some time and sets up a good partitioning scheme, a separate / partition. Don't see why the OS update install wouldn't be painless when someone does get around to it. Keeping the /home and so forth partitions intact. Other advantages, like the dev who maintains #!, obviously just has uber good judgement and skillz. So resourcewise, betting #! kicks da tar out of anything over in ubuntuland when it comes to being lean and mean. Seen people complaining about buntu's supposed to be lighter releases becoming more and more bloated as time passes.

With backports and apt pinning to get newer software packages. After awhile ... looks like someone could still have up to date software they want with #! too. Or changing sources.list etc. and making it rolling. Personally haven't really felt a need to mess with it myself. Am satisfied with what's available in the Debian stable software repos. Anyway ... long story short. Don't think your friend can go wrong with #!. Hands down better and head and shoulders above anything buntuish ... imo.

(edit) Based on your new post. Yep x2 then, if he doesn't care about latest/greatest makes #! an even better fit. Cause changing repos to testing or unstable or whatever apparently comes with risks. While tons of people here are managing it and have learned what 2 do/not to do and still keeping it working fine. For something stable ... would have to say, imo and limited experience, crunchbang falls well into the extremely stable category with #!'s plainjane out of the box install. Not sure how much more stable someone could ever hope to get with gnu/nix than Debian stable.

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2011-09-07 23:38:58)


Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue

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#8 2011-09-07 23:51:19

wb4bbc
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Registered: 2011-03-02
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Re: Would you consider Crunchbang a Rolling Release ?

Thank for the replies. I know how good Crunchbang is as I been using it on the main Laptop for a good bit. I do test out the other distros on my spare, but Crunchbang is just  the lil workhorse, never gives me any headaches, it just works. I am hoping that my friend will have the same experiance with it. He had a few problems with Ubuntu , on the 11.04 he had a random lockup when the screensaver came on. ( And he hated that damn Unity slide in and out  of the Dock) Also he kept saying that his Computer's Fans ran more then he liked. when he was playing around with mine, the fans I do not think ever come on or if they do its pretty rare. He is of my mind that he wants to get as much life out of his stuff, and to that end Crunchbang make his older laptop ( not that old ) Duo core 2.0GHz machine with 2gigs of Ram , run fast . I will say he did get about 8 years out of his last machine, and it was a time to get it replaced hehehe.:cool:

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