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#1 2011-07-28 19:11:43

munchen800
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Registered: 2011-07-28
Posts: 13

Ready to try.......

Hey, I am a avid linux user/admin and have been since 2007. I have always used Ubuntu though. I am very partial to my "sudo apt-get" smile so a Debian base is a must. These days though I am very disappointed in the direction Ubuntu is going. The distro is becoming overly bloated and buggy. I think 9.04 is the last great release.

Anyways ! After some research I have decided to try out #! I get to keep my "apt-get" and run something more streamline and fast. My first experiment will be with my cr-48. Please save me the lecture. I gave google 6 months of beta testing on the free pc they were nice enough to give me, but chromeOS is FAR to limited for my needs.

Just as a note the cr-48 specs are as follows:

Intel Atom Processor N455 1.66GHz 512K Cache
Tripod Motherboard MARIO – 6050A240910 – MB – A03
Hynix 2GB DDR3 1Rx8 PC3 – 10600S Ram
Intel CG82NM10 PCH
ITE IT8500E Flash ROM
SanDisk sdsa4dh-016G 16GB SATA SSD
Qualcomm Gobi2000 PCI Express Mini Card
AzureWave 802.11 a/b/g/n PCI-E Half MiniCard
Atheros AR5BBU12 Bluetooth V2.1 EDR

Anyhow I will give you the success/failure of my test perhaps tomorrow. lol So I guess this is my way of saying hi to everyone. SO HI smile

#! is a good looking OS and I hope all goes well.Later!

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#2 2011-07-28 19:12:35

anonymous
The Mystery Member
From: Arch Linux Forums
Registered: 2008-11-29
Posts: 9,418

Re: Ready to try.......

Welcome to #! munchen800 smile

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#3 2011-07-28 19:37:15

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,950

Re: Ready to try.......

Welcome to the forums! smile


/hugged

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#4 2011-07-28 19:43:46

punk_physicist
#! CrunchBanger
From: ~/
Registered: 2011-05-02
Posts: 160

Re: Ready to try.......

Welcome to #!

Out of curiosity, will you be dual booting #! and ChromeOS? Also interested to hear how fast your boot up time into #! is on a Chrome-book... Hope to hear how wonderful #! is for you wink.

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#5 2011-07-28 20:07:45

ivanovnegro
Ivan #000000
From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,431

Re: Ready to try.......

Welcome and good luck with installing a functional #! desktop!

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#6 2011-07-28 20:13:49

sunfizz98
Carbonated Orange Juice
From: su terminal
Registered: 2011-05-12
Posts: 1,876
Website

Re: Ready to try.......

Welcome to #!  and good luck to your chromebook.

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#7 2011-07-29 02:42:15

munchen800
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Registered: 2011-07-28
Posts: 13

Re: Ready to try.......

First off, Thank You All for the warm welcome.

@punk_physicist - No I am not dual booting with chromeOS. Part of the security in chromebooks, in fact a big part, are the bios. Google writes proprietary bios for all chromebooks that will not let software load that is not signed by google. Google released a method for installing Ubuntu and running it with the google bios. Basically how it works is chromeOS is based on Ubuntu 10.10, in essence you create a chroot that has the Ubuntu software but it uses the chromeOS kernel. I had it set up like that for like a week, but you only have like 2gb of hdd space. It wasn't worth it. So I flashed the bios and installed regular old Ubuntu 11.04. As far as the boot time chromeOS is like 3 sec. to log on screen which is crazy fast. My Ubuntu install ran about 5 sec. without encrypted hdd and 10 or 12 with. I am super paranoid especially with my portables. I am happy to report that #! minus typing the 25 char. password is 5 to 8 sec.

Now on to my install experience. First bit of advice to anyone installing with a usb. DO NOT USE Ubuntu usb-creator OR UNetbootin to install #! They were both EPIC FAILS. After trying for about 2 hrs. i looked around and found the dd command. lol I felt silly for never thinking of using this for making live usb sticks. Look Here http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/statler … stallation. Worked like a charm. (rtfm right) I used the text install, set up LVM with encryption, and about 10 min. later it was done. Smooth, Quick, and no issues.

I logged in and began customizing. Nothing serious, but I needed to do something while the system was updating. Openbox is pretty nice. I have used fluxbox before which is crap, but openbox - nice smile. Conky is a nice touch.

To sum it up. Very nice OS. It offers encryption, clean gui, and apt-get. It runs way fast on here too. I don't think my cpu has gone above 25% yet and I average less then 100mb ram. So far very impressed guys, Thanks for the sweet new toy. smile

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#8 2011-07-29 03:27:40

mynis01
#! Die Hard
From: 127.0.0.1
Registered: 2010-07-02
Posts: 2,005

Re: Ready to try.......

munchen800 wrote:

Now on to my install experience. First bit of advice to anyone installing with a usb. DO NOT USE Ubuntu usb-creator OR UNetbootin to install #! They were both EPIC FAILS. After trying for about 2 hrs. i looked around and found the dd command. lol I felt silly for never thinking of using this for making live usb sticks. Look Here http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/statler … stallation. Worked like a charm. (rtfm right) I used the text install, set up LVM with encryption, and about 10 min. later it was done. Smooth, Quick, and no issues.

Sometimes, nothing beats the old disk druid. People always look at me wierd when I tell them I use dd to rip things instead of brasero. It's got an input file and an output, nice and simple imo.

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#9 2011-07-29 04:05:03

sunfizz98
Carbonated Orange Juice
From: su terminal
Registered: 2011-05-12
Posts: 1,876
Website

Re: Ready to try.......

The only problem I had with dd was that it didn't work nicely with making live usbs for other linux distros like debian mint or peppermint OS, whereas Unetbootin worked well.  My desktop might just be a very picky PC when reading USB sticks.

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#10 2011-07-29 04:11:04

mynis01
#! Die Hard
From: 127.0.0.1
Registered: 2010-07-02
Posts: 2,005

Re: Ready to try.......

sunfizz98 wrote:

The only problem I had with dd was that it didn't work nicely with making live usbs for other linux distros like debian mint or peppermint OS, whereas Unetbootin worked well.  My desktop might just be a very picky PC when reading USB sticks.

There's little nuances to booting from a USB stick, like making certain files executable, enabling legacy usb support in the bios, using certain file systems, etc. There's been times I just got fed up and did a "sudo chmod 777 /dev/usbstick" and it just started working (all though this is a piss poor security practice, and that's an understatement).

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#11 2011-07-29 04:16:50

sunfizz98
Carbonated Orange Juice
From: su terminal
Registered: 2011-05-12
Posts: 1,876
Website

Re: Ready to try.......

If you could enlighten me, what exactly does chmod 777 do?

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#12 2011-07-29 04:18:32

psyco430404
#! Die Hard
From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Registered: 2011-07-04
Posts: 804

Re: Ready to try.......

Makes it read write and executable by anyone if memory serves me right.


"'If fighting is to result in victory, then you must fight'...Sun Tzu said that and id say he knows a little more about fighting then you do pal."

- TF2 Soldier

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#13 2011-07-29 04:31:23

mynis01
#! Die Hard
From: 127.0.0.1
Registered: 2010-07-02
Posts: 2,005

Re: Ready to try.......

chmod can be used in octal or symbolic mode. there's three groups of permissions, user (or owner, usually whomever created the file), group, and others. so if you wanted to give the user read write and execute, the group to which the file belongs read/write, and everyone else just read permissions, you could do a

chmod u+rwx g+rw o+r fileiamchangingpermissionson

that would be the symbolic way to do it. in octal mode, read is equal to 4, write is equal to 2, and execute is equal to 1, and the first digit is user, second group, third others. so to do the same thing in octal mode, you would just type

chmod 764 fileiamchangingpermissionson

And to make the changes recursive (they apply to every file inside the directory you are changing permissions on, and every directory in that folder, and every file inside that directory inside the other directory etc.) you do a -R. So if you wanted to make every single file on your computer have full permissions for every single user, you would do "sudo chmod -R 777 /". And no, please don't go do this. I just did it once to get a live usb working (dynebolic) and was not connected to a network when I did it.

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