Hey~ so I just moved from Windows XP..

hehsusss · 2012-10-20 09:51:26

First off, thank you for taking your time to read this post. :)

As I said, I just switched from Windows XP and I'm still not used to the open source feel. I've been using #! for almost a month now and I thought "Hey, I want to change stuff here." But then I don't really know what to do so I decided to make an account here and get some suggestions/tips from you guys.

Well yeah. :)

Just a quick question: Is there any way I can view the currently installed programs? Sort of like the Add/Remove Programs in XP.

dura · 2012-10-20 10:40:49

welcome! good choice moving from xp! You'll get used to the gnu/linux feel soon. And it will feel great, probably.

You can check installed packages via synaptic, if you click 'installed applications' or something. as Pvsage says in another post today there are other ways of doing it but synaptic is the most simple and intuitive for recent non-gnu/linux users smile

Maybe you should give some description of the things you would like to change.

Openbox settings has a good few gui apps you can use. There is also, of course, conky, which is a really good introduction to changing things via code smile

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schwim · 2012-10-20 14:02:07

Welcome to the site and congrats on testing out the waters of an operating system that doesn't have you press a button labeled "Start" to turn off your computer. wink

When I was new to the linux OS, I installed everything I could to find out about it and looking back, that was a bad way to do it. I ended up with a drive full of software I wouldn't use.

In my incredibly humble opinion, a good way for you to explore is to decide what you want to do and then search for the apps in Google for reviews and info pages:

"linux audio player gtk"
"linux hdr image gtk"
"linux first person shooter"

(I append "gtk" because that's the toolkit #! uses for the gui. You can use apps that use others, like qt, but it just adds a bit more overhead)

and then use your synaptic(or apt-get) to install it and try it out if you like what you find.

As for changing things up, dura has you covered. Your config files found under super+space/settings will introduce you to a world of customization that will make xp look like 3.1.

dura · 2012-10-20 14:26:24

In terms of searching for apps, using:

apt-cache search word processor

for example is useful. You can swap the word processor bit with anything.

so:

apt-cache search first person shooter

In regard to customization again- literally everything is customizable in gnu/linux smile

I find removing window decoration particularly useful for my small x121e screen

Useful config page on #! wiki:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/theming

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VastOne · 2012-10-20 15:07:29

Welcome to CrunchBang and the Community hehsusss, we are glad to have you!

johnraff · 2012-10-20 15:58:25

Welcome hehsusss to Crunchbang, Debian and the whole open source world. cool

For sure some things will take getting used to at first but I bet at some point before too long you'll suddenly realize that there's no way you'd want to go back to Xp.

I came from Windows 98 and that "lightbulb" moment came at about 6 months, but you might well be faster...

merelyjim · 2012-10-20 22:17:07

Welcome to #! smile

I second all the good advice above, but might ad that after a fresh install, I make a back-up copy of any text-file I feel I have to monkey with... that way, when I screw something up (I always manage it somehow) I can fix it myself. tongue

cbdxs · 2012-10-21 05:23:21

Welcome to #!

hehsusss · 2012-10-22 16:00:07

Thanks for all your replies. smile

I'm sorry it took me some time to get back to you guys. I was able to explore some stuff here. At least I have my conky all set up. I'm just starting to learn changing tint2.

And yes it's a bit difficult not having a "Start" button. I'm actually trying to find a way to get at least a small button at the bottom of the screen to open a menu up.

But yeah, so far so good. Every time I get stuck at something I just search for it on google and find answers right away. But there is one question I can't seem to find the answer for:

- Is there any substitute to the "Clipboard Manager"? I want to be able to right-click an image on Google Chrome and paste it on photoshop but it won't let me. Not even on GIMP.

At first I downloaded a lot of stuff I don't need to customize things. I even managed to mess up things so I had to reformat again to get things back to normal and backed-up everything before doing anything.

Yeah. I hope I can get a hang of this soon.

dura · 2012-10-22 19:45:24

^ hacking is learning, breaking, learning by doing, rather than having a supposedly functioning immutable object thrown in front of you...

you really want that start button? seems impractical to me...i can just right click the obmenu wherever I want it. Cause you can add a button if you like, and modding you tint2 config to add some launchers for your favourite apps might be useful...

schwim · 2012-10-22 20:06:22

hehsusss wrote:

- Is there any substitute to the "Clipboard Manager"? I want to be able to right-click an image on Google Chrome and paste it on photoshop but it won't let me. Not even on GIMP.

Hi there again smile

I went to double-check after your post, thinking I might have been imagining things, but as I remembered, I'm able to copy image from browser and edit~>paste image in GIMP.

I should note that I have disabled clipboard manager completely and did not try to find any replacement, so maybe this is the reason I'm able to do this and you're not.

If you want to try disabling it, you can edit ~/.config/openbox/autostart and comment the clipboard manager out at around line 66:

## Start Clipboard manager
## (sleep 3s && clipit) &

Let us know if it gets you ctrl+c and ctrl+ving images with prejudice smile

VastOne · 2012-10-22 20:06:49

There is this ... Simple "Start" menu button for tint2

SabreWolfy · 2012-10-22 20:50:38

An equivalent of the "Add/Remove Programs" in "Control Panel" would be something like Synaptic or the Software Centre? Can you install those in #!?

VastOne · 2012-10-22 20:52:42

Synaptic is in #! .. there is something created out there that is like Software Center and a discussion was here on the forum... Let me find it.

Edit - here it is

Deepin Software Center

hehsusss · 2012-10-23 09:33:17

So far I'm not regretting moving to #! because of all of you guys. D:.

So, I was able to make use most of your suggestions and things are coming out quite nicely here. There's one last thing I need to ask.. Is there any way I can edit the OpenBox menu such that it updates itself? It's kind of a hassle changing it every time I install something.

vicshrike · 2012-10-23 09:40:11

Auto updating menu;

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/configu … ating_menu

SabreWolfy · 2012-10-23 10:23:30

hehsusss wrote:

So far I'm not regretting moving to #! because of all of you guys. D:.
So, I was able to make use most of your suggestions and things are coming out quite nicely here. There's one last thing I need to ask.. Is there any way I can edit the OpenBox menu such that it updates itself? It's kind of a hassle changing it every time I install something.

<troll>
Hit Alt-F2. Type the name of the program. Hit enter.
smile
</troll>

pvsage · 2012-10-23 11:02:59

/smacks SabreWolfy in the snout with a rolled-up newspaper. "Bad Wolfy!" lol

@hehsusss: The link vicshrike posted should get you what you're looking for.

merelyjim · 2012-10-23 11:51:48

^
Hey, SabreWolfy has a point, you can do it that way, or just type the "command" into the terminal followed by "&"
Using CLI, you don't have to bother with menu's at all...

pvsage · 2012-10-23 11:57:45

^ This is true; however, it may come off as "Why do you want to do that? Do this instead." Kinda like a bicyclist asking for directions across town, and being told "Well, first you get on the interstate..." wink

SabreWolfy · 2012-10-23 11:58:43

^ Fair enough. Why do you want bicycle directions when you can just take this taxi across town ... wink

hehsusss · 2012-10-23 11:59:55

So I used this http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … for-tint2/
Following this tutorial just gave me one really small icon for the "START" which really irritated me for some reason.

I thought of something so I made another tint2rc "tint2rc-start" code/script whatever you call it. I was thinking of running two instances of tint2 since we can run more than one conky.

I just disabled everything with the new tint2rc except the launchers.
I just filled the small tint2rc (just 5% width) with launchers for the menu and placed it on the bottom left part of the screen.

running it with:

tint2 -c /home/jesus/.config/tint2/tint2rc-start

and adding the same line to the autostart

I also followed the auto updating menu tutorial.

Giving me one improvised "START" button!

Thank you everyone! Couldn't have done it without you! smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-10-23 12:01:38

#! and #! forums FTW! smile

VastOne · 2012-10-23 12:15:32

^ FTW indeed... Nice work by all. cool

SabreWolfy · 2012-10-23 12:18:13

johnraff wrote:

Welcome hehsusss to Crunchbang, Debian and the whole open source world.
For sure some things will take getting used to at first but I bet at some point before too long you'll suddenly realize that there's no way you'd want to go back to Xp.
I came from Windows 98 and that "lightbulb" moment came at about 6 months, but you might well be faster...

From 1998 to 2012? Almost 14 years? wink What caused the "moment"?

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