xfce4 panel

becker · 2012-10-01 10:14:28

I was doing an update/upgrade today when I noticed one of the packages that was being installed during the upgrade was xfce4-panel. Why does this need to be upgraded? The default panel in #! is and has long been tint2. So why is xfce4 panel even installed?

el_koraco · 2012-10-01 10:25:33

It's one of Thunar's dependencies.

pvsage · 2012-10-01 12:14:21

^^ It's a dependency of xfce4-mixer

~$ sudo apt-get purge xfce4-panel -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xfce4-mixer* xfce4-panel*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Purg xfce4-mixer [4.6.1-2+b1]
Purg xfce4-panel [4.6.4-1]

becker · 2012-10-01 15:15:41

Thanks guys,

Dependacy hell as usual. Making you install stuff you wont use just because a package says it has to be there.

pvsage · 2012-10-01 15:25:30

More "cruft" than "dependency hell"; the latter typically means you need to track down dependencies - or specific versions of dependencies - yourself, and manage any potential borkage on your own. But then, as cruft goes, is a single 2.3MiB package really enough to loose sleep over?

becker · 2012-10-01 15:37:10

I take your point. I wasn't going to lose any sleep over it I just happened to notice it when doing an upgrade and thought it was out of place. Having now learnt how to check dependancies for specific apps I have now removed Gnome-Mplayer as I was able to check and see it wouldn't take anything else with it.

VastOne · 2012-10-01 15:48:44

becker wrote:

Dependacy hell as usual. Making you install stuff you wont use just because a package says it has to be there.

CrunchBang is great OTOTB and for most users, supplying just what is needed

Debian netinstall is for those of us who want to choose what we want and do not want.

Choices. smile

el_koraco · 2012-10-01 16:09:30

becker wrote:

I take your point. I wasn't going to lose any sleep over it I just happened to notice it when doing an upgrade and thought it was out of place.

It's a packaging thing. A general purpose Thunar install will pull in exo, thunar-volman, xfce panel and other stuff. A --no-install-recommends will be more barebones. The operating assumption being you will be using Thunar with XFCE.

hinto · 2012-10-01 16:25:57

becker wrote:

Thanks guys,
Dependacy hell as usual. Making you install stuff you wont use just because a package says it has to be there.

Generally dependency hell means that you have to search various sites for different dependency versions and hope for the best. That generally doesn't happen with Debian.
-Hinto

becker · 2012-10-01 16:36:26

VastOne wrote:

becker wrote:
Dependacy hell as usual. Making you install stuff you wont use just because a package says it has to be there.
CrunchBang is great OTOTB and for most users, supplying just what is needed
Debian netinstall is for those of us who want to choose what we want and do not want.
Choices.

I totally agree with you VastOne and I have dabbled with my own netinstall on occasion as well. At the moment though I would say my skill level lies somewhere between someone who uses #! OTOB & someone who is completely comfortable going the netinstall route.

For the time being I think I'll stick with installing #! & adding/removing the things I feel I need to customise it just for me.

DapperMe17 · 2012-10-19 08:06:43

Becker,

You could look at SpaceFM, as an alternative to Thunar (and xfce4-panel). It's the replacement to PCManFM Mod...simple but also powerful as an alternative.

http://ignorantguru.github.com/spacefm/

cool

Last edited by DapperMe17 (2012-10-19 08:07:34)

rizzo · 2012-10-19 10:33:44

^ SpaceFM looks mighty interesting http://ignorantguru.github.com/spacefm/screenshots.html

I must check it out smile

Milozzy · 2012-10-19 12:37:32

I see xfce4-panel more as an hidden feature of #!
Did you have a friend that needs a traditional panel and/or a traditional menu (I think that to update the menu manually is the biggest threat for newbies)? Voilà: launch xfce panel and they are ready to go with CB smile

hinto · 2012-10-19 12:40:07

XFCE (and OpenBox) broke my Windows dependency on a "taskbar".
-Hinto

machinebacon · 2012-10-19 16:09:50

Oh there are so many panels to choose from big_smile fbpanel has conquered my heart recently, has a menu button, launchers, window buttons, workspace switcher, network/CPU graph, systray and a clock that is purple/blue by default (lol) And a nice config file.

VastOne · 2012-10-19 16:15:27

^ I like fbpanel also, but it seems to have the same mem leak issues that lxpanel suffers from.

machinebacon · 2012-10-19 16:20:04

^ does it? Let's check the dependencies, must be one of them causing it:

In common they have:
libc6
libglib2.0-0
libgtk2.0-0
libx11-6

Pick your fave. If it's causing trouble, it's usually X11.

VastOne · 2012-10-19 16:29:06

^ I would agree with X11...

Dloading Paardenrookvlees to check it out later today. I have never ran mate, this will be a good look and test. smile

machinebacon · 2012-10-19 16:33:24

^ Hope it's the 64bit one smile good luck with it! Nostalgia wink

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