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#1 2012-07-11 18:11:26

mariannemarlow
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Wifi icon help please

My wifi icon only comes up to say I am connected when I plug an external stick in. It doesn't seem to detect my internal wifi even when I am online.

Can anyone help please?


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#2 2012-07-11 18:23:31

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Aren't you connecting via the /etc/network/interfaces file?

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#3 2012-07-11 19:03:57

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Think that you guys sometimes forget that I know nothing.

I do not know!

el_koraco wrote:

Aren't you connecting via the /etc/network/interfaces file?


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#4 2012-07-11 22:01:19

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Re: Wifi icon help please

better wait till surgery hours for this one... big_smile

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#5 2012-07-11 22:15:05

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Not sure I will get any help there sad

wuxmedia wrote:

better wait till surgery hours for this one... big_smile


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#6 2012-07-11 22:22:21

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Re: Wifi icon help please

cat /etc/network/interfaces
nm-tool

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#7 2012-07-12 01:42:22

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Re: Wifi icon help please

More Info please......
Statler? Waldorf? Only so I can play in the same sandbox.
Post an

ifconfig -a

and

lspci

and a

cat /etc/network/interfaces

maybe a workaround is available..
Sometimes an additional app for the panel like WICD...
About Right now, el_koraco is cringing ...he doesn't   like WICD .. LOL


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#8 2012-07-12 07:22:08

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Re: Wifi icon help please

el_koraco wrote:
cat /etc/network/interfaces
nm-tool
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

wpa-debug-level 3
wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyy
NetworkManager Tool

State: disconnected

- Device: eth1 -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Type:              802.11 WiFi
  Driver:            ipw2200
  State:             unmanaged
  Default:           no
  HW Address:        00:16:6F:CC:EF:64

  Capabilities:

  Wireless Properties
    WEP Encryption:  yes
    WPA Encryption:  yes
    WPA2 Encryption: yes

  Wireless Access Points 


- Device: eth0 -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Type:              Wired
  Driver:            8139too
  State:             unavailable
  Default:           no
  HW Address:        00:E0:4E:77:04:C7

  Capabilities:
    Carrier Detect:  yes
    Speed:           10 Mb/s

  Wired Properties
    Carrier:         off

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#9 2012-07-12 07:25:18

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Re: Wifi icon help please

@sqlpython

I have Statler

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:e0:4e:77:04:c7  
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe800 

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:6f:cc:ef:64  
          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::216:6fff:fecc:ef64/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:2318 errors:2 dropped:2 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1992071 (1.8 MiB)  TX bytes:463378 (452.5 KiB)
          Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe000 Memory:fcfff000-fcffffff 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          LOOPBACK  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge (rev 10)
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge
00:06.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
00:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VX800 Serial ATA and EIDE Controller
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 90)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 90)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 90)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 90)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Internal Module Bus
00:13.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 Host Bridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CX700/VX700 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 03)
02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

wpa-debug-level 3
wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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#10 2012-07-12 09:29:50

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Re: Wifi icon help please

The wifi icon is provided by network manager, a program regulating network connections. You're not using network manager for your primary connection, xaos has set you up with the simpler and more reliable method via the /etc/network/interfaces file. That's why no icon is showing up for your internal network. This is not a bad thing, as long as the network is operational, there's no need to worry.

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#11 2012-07-12 09:32:20

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Re: Wifi icon help please

el_koraco wrote:

The wifi icon is provided by network manager, a program regulating network connections. You're not using network manager for your primary connection, xaos has set you up with the simpler and more reliable method via the /etc/network/interfaces file. That's why no icon is showing up for your internal network. This is not a bad thing, as long as the network is operational, there's no need to worry.

Hi El_K

I am not worried. I just don't like seeing the "no network connection" icon at the top of my screen. I want the one that tells you that you are connected and how much % your wifi is at. 

I get it if I put a wifi stick in but not if I am using my internal wifi.

Just annoys me.

I do thank XAOS52 for what he has done for me though smile

Last edited by mariannemarlow (2012-07-12 09:32:57)


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#12 2012-07-12 09:34:19

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Re: Wifi icon help please

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
#hotplug eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

#wpa-debug-level 3
#wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Change /etc/network/interfaces to this, reboot and see if you can make a connection via the icon. If stuff doesn't work, revert to your current setup and reboot once more.

Alternatively, you can put this in .conkyrc to have info about the network:

 WiFi - ${wireless_link_qual_perc eth1}%

Last edited by el_koraco (2012-07-12 09:35:46)

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#13 2012-07-12 09:49:05

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Did both of the above ^

It seemed to work and my icon came up great. But then it just kept disconnecting and reconnecting so I changed it back. hmm


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#14 2012-07-12 09:50:11

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Re: Wifi icon help please

I suppose that's why the good doctor set you up with the alternative. My advice is, learn to live without the icon, it's not worth the trouble.

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#15 2012-07-12 09:54:15

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Re: Wifi icon help please

el_koraco wrote:

I suppose that's why the good doctor set you up with the alternative. My advice is, learn to live without the icon, it's not worth the trouble.

Oh b*gger. Guess so.

Thanks for trying to help.

Unless the Doc steps in and saves the day, it will be thus.


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#16 2012-07-12 11:12:19

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Yeah, as el koraco said, network manager usually handles network connections. However, it has some issues with certain hardware and in these cases, it's better to manage connections the way you're doing it now. This unfortunately means that you won't have that little icon but you're still connected, which is all that's necessary anyway. If you don't like seeing the little icon with 'no connection', you could always go to /home/username/.config/openbox/autostart and comment out (place a # in front of) the line "(sleep 4s && nm-applet) &". That should prevent the icon from displaying.


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#17 2012-07-12 14:34:39

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Re: Wifi icon help please

fortyseven wrote:

Yeah, as el koraco said, network manager usually handles network connections. However, it has some issues with certain hardware and in these cases, it's better to manage connections the way you're doing it now. This unfortunately means that you won't have that little icon but you're still connected, which is all that's necessary anyway. If you don't like seeing the little icon with 'no connection', you could always go to /home/username/.config/openbox/autostart and comment out (place a # in front of) the line "(sleep 4s && nm-applet) &". That should prevent the icon from displaying.

@fortyseven

I commented the line out but the icon remains..

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#18 2012-07-13 05:47:38

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Re: Wifi icon help please

oops! late to the party and it's Fri the 13th here..
Seems you already got all the practical advice..
Are you using an OpenBox or Xfce manager for your desktop?
I am in Sid tonight but I have to take a look at my Statler before I quit just to see what I have as I know that my panel displays a WiFi/Etho  icon..


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#19 2012-07-13 06:32:48

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Re: Wifi icon help please

I am back in Statler ..
Your wifi seems to be eth1..
As the above states commenting out direct reference to eth1 should give you the results you seek.
I only keep two lines in that config in all my Debian installs..

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

I let NetworkManager-Applet or Wicd Applet or CENI app handle the that info..

Although you might want to leave the the WPA security lines in place and only comment out the

#hotplug eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp

and see if that gives you the desired results..
Other then that try a different Manager.. if you like
Or there are panel apps that just display status and do no controlling..


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#20 2012-07-13 07:36:35

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Re: Wifi icon help please

@sqlpython

What happens when I comment out those lines is that my computer constantly tries to connect to the internet and keeps asking for my password.


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#21 2012-07-13 07:37:39

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Re: Wifi icon help please

sqlpython wrote:

oops! late to the party and it's Fri the 13th here..
Seems you already got all the practical advice..
Are you using an OpenBox or Xfce manager for your desktop?
I am in Sid tonight but I have to take a look at my Statler before I quit just to see what I have as I know that my panel displays a WiFi/Etho  icon..

Erm Openbox? I think? hmm


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#22 2012-07-13 11:02:50

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Re: Wifi icon help please

Dunce question - How do I try a different manager?


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#23 2012-07-13 16:16:53

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Re: Wifi icon help please

What happens when I comment out those lines is that my computer constantly tries to connect to the internet and keeps asking for my password.

#wpa-debug-level 3
#wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I was suggesting One of Two paths...
#1 As you were already advised comment out the lines in  /etc/networks/interfaces
as below but you say that causing an Icon indicator Flashing..

# The loopback network interface
#hotplug eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

wpa-debug-level 3
wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

#2 Or Changing to another Network manager for the panel Panel
....yet leaving it as was originally and add a different Wifi managager... from Synaptics..
I believe we are using NetworkManager-applet but there is WiCD also WiFi-Radar just to mention two others..
These will allow you in there GUI Properties to choose the Interface, Host, DHCP and WPA passwords as I remember. This would require that the apps are configured and all else commented out.

# The loopback network interface
#hotplug eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

#wpa-debug-level 3
#wpa-ssid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#wpa-psk yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Those are the two possible solutions based on the info I see there...
Of course as was said above (el_koraco) the  Icon is not a Great loss if all works..

#3... I do remember seeing some panel apps in the Past (can't remember names will have to search) that did not configuration but simply displayed a Connection..

Last edited by sqlpython (2012-07-13 16:18:11)


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#24 2012-07-13 16:41:54

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Re: Wifi icon help please

^   

I also find that resistance bands are great for some creative full body exercises

That's It!
Why didn't we think of it!
The solution was staring us in face... Resistance Bands!

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#25 2012-07-13 17:45:54

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Re: Wifi icon help please

sqlpython wrote:

^   

I also find that resistance bands are great for some creative full body exercises

That's It!
Why didn't we think of it!
The solution was staring us in face... Resistance Bands!

big_smile


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