Guys at the PC Repair shop

bzachd · 2012-05-18 20:48:29

Took my PC in with a video issue... got a call from the PC repair guy asking what the heck CrunchBang was and how could he get it !

NIce work fellas,

Zach

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lcafiero · 2012-05-18 20:59:17

And you told him for $10, you'd give him a live CD, right? big_smile

Good work, Zach!

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VastOne · 2012-05-18 21:01:59

Good work, Zach!

CBizgreat! · 2012-05-18 21:09:14

lol Funneeeeee, appreciate the smile, am sure Corenominal laughs when seeing this kinda thing.

rhowaldt · 2012-05-18 21:59:26

nice! smile

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-18 23:00:27

Nice! Indeed, good work Zach!

apprentice · 2012-05-18 23:19:32

just bought a used hp dv6
brought it home, wiped vista, installed waldorf
worked fine for a week

then i unplugged it
shuts off
battery pooched

take it back to computer "experts"
tell them what problem is

guy plugs it in, turns it on
says whats this
i tell him #! linux

oh he says
brows furrow
"theres your problem"

tool

left the shop with $300 back in my pocket

el_koraco · 2012-05-18 23:23:37

apprentice wrote:

used hp

Actually, this was your problem. HPs don't age well, especially the consumer models.

TitanMech · 2012-05-18 23:28:04

someone who calls themselves a technician or engineer who only fixes windows is neither a technician or engineer, they are merley a trained monkey happy using and correcting the inferior equipment purchased by other fellow inferior members of the human race,

The feedback i was given from a recent job interview was and i quote the female member of the three person panel "Linux is a security risk which is why we dont use it, and refuse to allow our employees a linux based operating system on their workstations"
So i told the placement department at my university i thought she was as a fucking retard, and dont want to apply for any future positions within her organisation.

Im still unemployed, but at least im not ignorant

KerrMD · 2012-05-19 08:59:08

TitanMech wrote:

So i told the placement department at my university i thought she was as a fucking retard, and dont want to apply for any future positions within her organisation.
Im still unemployed, but at least im not ignorant

That is good ground to stand on. You stuck by your principals. In the end it's a better thing. IMHO

el_koraco · 2012-05-19 09:55:12

TitanMech wrote:

So i told the placement department at my university i thought she was as a fucking retard, and dont want to apply for any future positions within her organisation.

Seems to me you were a little rash there. The mantra about all other operating systems being insecure or impossible to operate going about in management positions is a result of Microsoft's Technical Evangelism in the 1990's. They actually did a very good job, as most of the mid-level technical staff (educated in Microsoft-Cisco workshops) adhere to the lessons. Once you get higher up, stuff changes, but you can't get to the upper levels if you keep calling mid-level managers retards big_smile

TitanMech · 2012-05-19 10:35:36

Seems to me you were a little rash there.

Your wrong, and i will tell you why your wrong.

The panel of people interviewing me for that job are just the same as almost every other person who has ever interviewed me for a position in IT, they know absolutley nothing about computers!!
They are human resource / business types, and have no interest or understanding of anything technical, unless its making them money, then they pretend to care, but really take credit from others who maintain their infrastructure.

There also really arrogant, and unbelievably narrow, so convincing them to switch from a system they've had for years, even when giving demo's and factual data on the benefits is like getting blood from a stone, and theres only so much ignorance you can take before you have to get on your high horse and blow the linux trumpet.

Ive worked in organisations before where they had linux servers for backup, but windows workstations and a few windoes servers for active directory stuff, and me and a coder named Pav gave a demo of a small network of ubuntu machines performing file server access, web access, we showed them cron and how we could automate so many things, my friend pav was a scripter and showed them some brilliant things with bash, and we basically prooved their contract of a million pounds a year with microsoft was unessacery as we could set up the entire place to run off ubuntu and it would make everything faster, more secure, and would mean the workstations they purchased, would not have to be replaceed every 3 years.

There reponse was that although everything we did was impressive, they felt they had a reliance on external support from MS, when the internal people cannot diagnose the issue!!
ofc with ubuntu and linux in general that wouldnt have been a problem because there is endless documentation and communites who can fix pretty much anything, but like i said these people know nothing about tech, and are terrified of change, kind of like religous nut cases who still think the earth is flat

el_koraco · 2012-05-19 11:16:31

It's your party. I'm just saying it's not a bad idea to not freak out about management bozos, as they rarely know what they're talking about.

TitanMech · 2012-05-19 11:20:11

el_koraco wrote:

It's your party. I'm just saying it's not a bad idea to not freak out about management bozos, as they rarely know what they're talking about.

If this had been the first time it had ever happened to me then yeah of course it would have been rash, but its happened to many times, and i wasnt about to let it by again lol.

rhowaldt · 2012-05-19 12:36:58

@titan: you're right, of course, in your observations about management and policy inside companies. i cannot believe my boss is trying so hard to save money here and there, looking at cutting contracts and whatnot, when the simple idea of switching over to LibreOffice and Linux would save him massive money without having to sack employees. however, the fact of the matter is that most people are afraid of change, especially when they need to change something they don't know about. i am not in the programmer's-department so i am not regarded as an authority. the programmers themselves are not looking forward to extra work to troubleshoot all this new stuff and learning new systems (even though our servers are Linux, they're not really adept with them, imo). so when the boss looks at the programmers for advice, he'll hear them say to leave it all as it is 'because it just works'.
it is sad, but as long as they pay me my money i'm fine with it. it is their company, let them decide. i'll just have to battle the occasional frustration-fit and that's it.

apprentice · 2012-05-19 13:53:51

el_koraco wrote:

Actually, this was your problem. HPs don't age well, especially the consumer models.

hey el k

could you expand please

ive got a six year old dv9 that runs great
and two docking stations so i figured another hp would be ok
should i look for something else?

i was looking at an ibm thinkpad too

el_koraco · 2012-05-19 15:05:48

In my experience, HP's consumer line tends to run into hardware issues after a while - dead batteries, clogged cooling fans, stuff like that. Now, my Probook 4530 (business line) uses the battery hinge to open up the entire interior, so replacing non-crucial parts is a breeze, but AFAIK, most of the Pavillions and stuff require you to disasemble the entire machine. Thinkpads are like HP's Elitebooks (I can't remember what their predecessors were called), made to last and withstand abuse.

I'd say the fact that your dv9 survived this long is more of a fluke than a regular thing.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-19 15:39:49

@El Cocaino speaks the truth, some HP machines are really not ageing well, saw that but I have luck with an old 3 years HP kicking Debian but yes, the fan is not so great e.g.

VastOne · 2012-05-19 17:28:45

OTOH I have a 7 year old HP lappy that runs like new as a Waldorf - Grandmas Machine or door brick, depending on how hot it is outside...

praest76 · 2012-05-19 17:39:03

When most firms won't make the leap from Windows XP to Windows 7 without divine intervention, convincing them to make the move to Linux is almost impossible. Almost.

I think Windows 8 will hang MS.

sqlpython · 2012-05-19 17:50:28

They are human resource / business types, and have no interest or understanding of anything technical, unless its making them money, then they pretend to care, but really take credit from others who maintain their infrastructure.

One of the truest corporate statements ever. I have heard it many many times before and you can't repeat it enough. The corporate game is played Exactly that way... KNGPP ..Translated to Know Nothing Golf Playing Parasites..Who simply take the work of others around them and then take Credit for it Publicly at Management Meetings..makes my blood boil.

I have witnessed Middle to Upper Management people take full reports verbatim and present at meetings as their own work. Then take bonuses and Promotions based on that work.. Further, never rewarding the creator. I can say this objectively as the work fortunately was never mine. These Management Bloodsuckers will do this for an entire career. These examples are not isolated there are more of that type per my 45 yrs in Corporate work then those who can actually initiate their own work..What a Scam!

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VastOne · 2012-05-19 17:54:57

^ I understand the angst everyone is thinking/feeling here regarding 'Corporations' but having worked in them for 25 years I can tell they are not run as being described as here in this thread.

I am not defending the weakness or cowardice of refusing to move to a new platform out of the fear of change, but I do understand the position.

sqlpython · 2012-05-19 17:55:10

I think Windows 8 will hang MS.

I heard that before too... about Windows 2 , 3 95, 98, Millennium, 2000, Vista etc and the Beat Goes on... smile

mynis01 · 2012-05-19 18:44:48

In all honesty, Windows 8 is probably the first OS from Redmond since Windows 2000 that I would consider a true upgrade. There's going to be improvements to security, performance and file-system integrity that are long overdue. The interesting part is going to be seeing the older generations that are used to Windows XP adapting to the metro interface. People who are linux and/or smartphone savvy probably won't have too many issues with it, but I know some people that freak out if there's no "My Computer" or recycle bin on their desktops. Lack of a start menu will probably be especially traumatic for some people too.

praest76 · 2012-05-19 22:32:04

I think a lot of the reluctance to change is not about the cost of upgrading the infrastructure, but often more to do with the cost of upgrading the staff. I've seen massive shitstorms brewed up over minor software changes in some of the organisations I've worked with. I've seen the look of horror on my girlfriend's face when I showed her the Windows 8 developer preview and she's no-where near as techno-phobic as some of the people I've had to work with and support in the past. The company I work with no are already tentatively weighing up the headache involved with moving a lot of their luddite staff over to Windows 7, never mind Windows 8.

Don't get me wrong, potentially Windows 8 is great, if MS handle it properly, but they won't. A lot of firms have held onto Windows XP. Ditching Windows 7 for Windows 8 and then expecting these firms to make that leap from WinXP may be a bit much.

Personally this could be a good time for Linux. If you are going to move to something so different in Windows it's as easy to move to something else altogether.

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