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#1 2012-04-17 13:46:20

dawiba
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Making music with Crunchbang

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#2 2012-04-17 13:48:38

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

I dont know much about audio editing, but maybe you could try audacity for some simple audio editing?

Oh and theres a program called icedove which is thunderbird rebranded, and i think with some minor changes

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#3 2012-04-17 14:00:10

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

There are at least a couple threads already about making music with CrunchBang.  I think one is called something like "I make music.  Do you?"

I think the main thing is to have a low-latency kernel; kernel 3.2 in Backports is available in a realtime preempt flavor for both 686 and amd64.

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#4 2012-04-17 14:13:37

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … rkstation/

i use Renoise with Alsa, sometimes with Jack. i've gotten good results with that, but i don't do live recording so the low-latency is not such a big issue for me. i recently installed a realtime (preempt) kernel to get even better results.

one thing is for sure: Ubuntu is way more bloated than #!, and bloat does not help you get a better music experience. that is the reason i started doing audio on #!, because it is so light, and it doesn't get in your way.

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#5 2012-04-17 14:22:50

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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#6 2012-04-17 16:33:23

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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#7 2012-04-17 17:15:32

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

One thing about the realtime preempt kernels is they place much higher demands on the CPU than the generic kernel; I've heard nothing but good about 3.2 generic in terms of low latency. cool

I think the only reason 3.2 is even available in realtime preempt flavors is because people who use virtual "instruments" (hey, does air guitar count? tongue) don't realize just how efficient the generic kernel is.

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#8 2012-05-02 13:22:20

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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#9 2012-05-02 15:10:48

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ I suppose a rt kernel makes a difference in certain mission-critical applications...assuming it's a genuine rt kernel. roll

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#10 2012-05-02 17:18:02

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

3.2.0 Kernel generic is good 32bit for "real time processing" with jack family and Ardour - Ardour and jack play very nicely together with few x-runs or crashes. 3.2.0 "rt" parameter may serve purpose in some settings.

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#11 2012-05-02 17:26:12

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

Vansgo wrote:

3.2.0 Kernel generic is good 32bit for "real time processing" with jack family and Ardour - Ardour and jack play very nicely together with few x-runs or crashes. 3.2.0 "rt" parameter may serve purpose in some settings.

A good point-using an RT kernel is not really going to affect latency very much with newer software versions. And since you brought up X runs, here's your friendly reminder: Disable cpu frequency throttling at all times when running JACK!

sudo cpufreq-set -rg performance

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#12 2012-05-02 17:35:06

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ good point - with hyper-threading and/or multi-cores - CPU speeds bounces all over the place without some regulation.

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#13 2012-05-02 18:53:08

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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#14 2012-05-03 12:16:38

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ If you turn a feature off in BIOS it will not be available in the OS; Like disabling on-board sound or video.

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#15 2012-05-03 15:02:38

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ Not necessarily - I have speedstep disabled on my netbook and cpufrequtils works just fine.  Seems in this case disabling the feature takes control of it away from the hardware and places it in the software's "hands".

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#16 2012-05-03 15:30:28

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

Using cpu freq throttling is highly reccomended when not running JACK so I wouldn't bother disabling it in the BIOS either. Just remember to turn it off when you start JACK. If using the terminal to do it isn't desireable there are some GUI utils to change your CPU governer on the fly as well, like trayfreq.

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#17 2012-05-03 16:29:45

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

Yes, OK - you can also check your current settings with command:

cpufreq-info

Some hardware becomes invisible and unavailable with BIOS setting disabled.

If you turn hyperthreading option off in BIOS - its gone in the OS as well?

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#18 2012-05-09 10:14:07

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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#19 2012-05-09 11:23:54

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ you could make a simple script called 'jackstart' or whatever, and do something like this

#!/bin/bash
sudo cpufreq-set -rg performance && qjackctl && sudo cpufreq-set-rg ondemand

make it executable by 'chmod +x jackstart' and put it in a directory inside your $PATH.

not sure if this works as advertised, haven't tried it out, this is from the top of my head. you could also just try the command without the script, directly in a terminal, ie just type:

sudo cpufreq-set -rg performance && qjackctl && sudo cpufreq-set-rg ondemand

which would set the cpufreq, start qjackctl, and should reset the cpu-freq when you close qjackctl.

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#20 2012-05-09 22:42:32

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

^ clever idea to work with qjackctl ... and multiple jack friendly apps could be started with the same technique, instead of opening 1 item at a time after qjackctl is running.

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#21 2012-12-08 10:35:07

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

Hi everyone
im kinda new to crunchbang and really like it.
i make music, mainly recording lines and make simple drum patterns would be fine
i found ardour ok for this, and i installed it from the terminal, but when i want to start it, the console says that the command cannot be found.
sorry for the dumb question if it is, but please someone help me!

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#22 2012-12-08 10:47:46

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

Please post output of

apt-cache policy ardour

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#23 2012-12-08 11:34:02

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

o...
i solved the problem, and it was really dumb..
next time i will have a problem i will spend more time triing before asking
sorry and thanks:)

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#24 2012-12-08 13:42:45

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Re: Making music with Crunchbang

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