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2ManyDogs

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what shell do you use

I'm interested in zsh, and I did a little search here, but it seem like this hasn't been covered recently...

What shell do you use, and why? Currently, I use bash, because it's the default and easy. But I've read a little about zsh and plan to start using it on the test machine soon (like I need another config file to play with ) in addition to learning vim and python, and switching from sakura/terminator to urxvt...

Your opinions?

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schemer

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Registered: 2012-01-23

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Re: what shell do you use

I am happy to be stuck with Bash for now. I also read a lot of zsh and its cool auto completion mechanisms and wish to use it as my main shell one day. That was my in plans from Day1 of my CrunchBang experience.

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TitanMech

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Registered: 2011-08-28

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Re: what shell do you use

I use bash, simply because when switching from ubuntu i thought it would be handy to learn a little about the command linem and as bash came as the default here i always knew if needed i could ask questions and get simple answers.

I have an issue of linux format from a year ago which has a 3 page peice on alternative shells, and some of them look pretty interesting, although i guess the reason i still use bash is when i test out other debian flavours in virtual machines because they use bash i can use the same commands on multiple distros

p120d16y

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Re: what shell do you use

Bash is king. Zsh is great in BSD. I've used both, but guess I'm used to bash so I stick with it.

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gensym

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Re: what shell do you use

Zsh, mostly because of the oh-my-zsh suite. I am pretty sure though, that with some tweaking it is possible to get most of the same functionalities in bash.

For experimental purposes I switched to tcsh on one of my ssh boxes at the uni... Too much brain damage in a single language.

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schemer

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Re: what shell do you use

Zsh, mostly because of the oh-my-zsh suite. I am pretty sure though, that with some tweaking it is possible to get most of the same functionalities in bash.

For experimental purposes I switched to tcsh on one of my ssh boxes at the uni... Too much brain damage in a single language.

Can you brief me briefly on what the oh-my-zsh suite contains? I remember going through its github page and getting put off with so much to read.

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gutterslob

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Re: what shell do you use

Oh-my-zsh might seem a tad intimidating if you've never used zsh before, but it's actually a pretty decent introduction and the configs are mostly well commented, iirc. Best documentation you can read is still "man zsh[TAB]", though.

Lots to read, as you can see:

>> man 1 zsh _                                                                                                                     
completing manual page, section 1
zsh      zshall       zshcalsys    zshcompsys   zshcontrib   zshmisc      zshoptions   zshroadmap   zshzftpsys 
zsh4     zshbuiltins  zshcompctl   zshcompwid   zshexpn      zshmodules   zshparam     zshtcpsys    zshzle

That's where I started (man pages), then studied some people's zshrc (mainly Daisuke's) and then discovered grml, which has one of the best zsh configs out there (and it's Debian specific) along with zsh-lovers. My current setups, whether they be Debian, Arch or OpenBSD based, all use grml + zsh-lovers configs as a base in some form or another. Arch users already have an Archified version of grml's setup to grab.

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2ManyDogs

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Re: what shell do you use

^ thanks gs. i also noticed that arch had a good wiki entry for zsh here... will probably be my next project...

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apprentice

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Re: what shell do you use

just in case you can use this
bit old but

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Re: what shell do you use

I run BASH but I fully intend to learn to use csh at some point. I have a fetish with c/c++ related stuff, don't ask

fortyseven

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Re: what shell do you use

Bash. Is there anything else?

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kbmonkey

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Re: what shell do you use

Bash. Also have rxvt that I sometimes use depending on mood, but still haven't grokked it's customization via .Xresources fully yet.

el_koraco

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Re: what shell do you use

This is all you need: http://grml.org/zsh/

Awebb

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Re: what shell do you use

Bash on Linux, zsh on *BSD. As a rule of thumb, I use whatever shell language the initscripts are written in. Might be not that flexible, but it worked well for me in the past.

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rhowaldt

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Re: what shell do you use

^ that's exactly why i just keep at bash on linux. well, that, and i know how it works

Awebb

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Re: what shell do you use

^ lies! You just don't have a clue how to change your shell :-P

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rhowaldt

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Re: what shell do you use

^ oh yeah, did i forget to mention that?

zalew

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Re: what shell do you use

zsh with ohmyzsh bling bling

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Anakinholland

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Registered: 2011-11-30

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Re: what shell do you use

bash on linux, ksh on *nix

Previously I used ksh as well on linux, so I could script and exchange easily. But I changed the default to bash as it made people frown when I showed them how to work with Linux... "What do you mean you press k to go up? How do you mean, up arrow doesn't work!?"

That, and the fact that most scripts on the webz are written in bash. ^^

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sqlpython

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Re: what shell do you use

I use whatever shell language the initscripts are written in.

  Same here, just keeps it all easier for me... So I see more BASH then any other shell.

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gensym

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Re: what shell do you use

Can you brief me briefly on what the oh-my-zsh suite contains? I remember going through its github page and getting put off with so much to read.

A bunch of plugins for zsh and themes. Just give it a shot, it is probably the mildest introduction to zsh.

Edit: Aren't the init scripts written in sh?

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schemer

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Re: what shell do you use

Can you brief me briefly on what the oh-my-zsh suite contains? I remember going through its github page and getting put off with so much to read.

A bunch of plugins for zsh and themes. Just give it a shot, it is probably the mildest introduction to zsh.

I planned to get comfy with Bash this year and zsh next year, but I'll remember not to be intimidated by oh-my-zsh...

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gensym

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Re: what shell do you use

There is absolutely no difference between the two unless you are planning to script extensively other than zsh providing a smoother interactive user experience. Even if you are going to write scripts, scripting in zsh (or even bash for that matter) is probably not a good idea.

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p120d16y

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Re: what shell do you use

They are mostly the same with minute key differences like the k key paging in ksh and most should honestly just use bash because it's the newest, most revamped. It's all preference though, kinda like convincing someone to switch distros; It's all relative to what you like about it.
I personally choose bash because I have bash books, and sh books nowadays tend to describe things using bash.

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schemer

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Re: what shell do you use

Even if you are going to write scripts, scripting in zsh (or even bash for that matter) is probably not a good idea.

This part was ambiguous to me. Can you please clarify what you meant? Does it mean scripting is better with Python/Ruby etc ?

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