Very Short Study of Crunchbang [CLOSED]

fatboyandy · 2010-12-06 14:37:43

Hi Everyone

I'm just wondering if this is the right place to ask or if it's allowed, but would any of you please help me?

I am a degree student and have chosen to write about how the interface looks and acts between 2different systems (Windows XP and Crunchbang).

I would like to maybe either post a short survey/questionnaire of some description on here. I am looking for people with all different skill levels to answer the questions if possible.

Its very basic - the task I am covering is how to shutdown a netbook running these 2systems, thats it.

Please can you help?? If i get a few responses I will post the questionnaire asap.

Look forward to your support.

Andy W

Last edited by fatboyandy (2011-01-15 13:43:00)

anonymous · 2010-12-06 14:50:08

You can post your questionnaire in the Off-Topic section:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/forum … eral-chat/

zengrapefruit · 2010-12-06 19:04:06

If you post it, they will come. smile

snowpine · 2010-12-06 19:07:17

fatboyandy wrote:

Its very basic - the task I am covering is how to shutdown a netbook running these 2systems, thats it.

Press Windows+X. Select "Shutdown."

Awebb · 2010-12-06 19:26:48

I only shut down windows once on my netbook. To install Linux.

CrunchyFree · 2010-12-06 20:06:14

Awebb wrote:

I only shut down windows once on my netbook. To install Linux.

Zing!

luc · 2010-12-06 21:00:37

fatboyandy wrote:

I am looking for people with all different skill levels

That might be a little hard to achieve on this forums. I guess everyone of us at least knows how to shut down from cli if (s)he wants to. But I think you can post nonetheless, just be warned that the result may not represent an average computer user.
luc

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Unia · 2010-12-06 21:06:05

^ We've got some guys on the boards here that do not know their way around yet. But just shutting down is a simple thing that most learn as one of their first command line commands.

It's not per se the skills of the people on the boards here, but more the required skills for the question asked here.
Regarding that question, I just shutdown by using XFCE4's shutdown feature, unless that doesn't work I go command line.

gutterslob · 2010-12-06 22:27:19

My skill level : Zero, Zip, Zilch

How I shut down Linux:
On my #! partition, I just use the ob-logout that came with it.
On my other partitions (usually Debian or Arch), I tend to run tiling WMs, so I quit the WM back to the command line and shutdown from there.

Windows:
The last time I came across Windows was the XP that was included with my netbook. When I turned it on for the first time, I was greeted to some Windows initializing screen (you know, that screen that shows the first time you run an OEM installed Windows)... got fed up after 20 seconds, so I just held the power button and performed a hard shutdown even before XP managed to ask for my desired username.... then I inserted a USB stick with a Linux iso (can't remember what distro it was), wiped everything Windows related away and installed Linux. Felt like I just cured cancer.

Short answer:
I can shutdown Linux/#! just fine, but seemingly fail at shutting down Windows. lol

Last edited by gutterslob (2010-12-06 22:44:24)

CrunchyFree · 2010-12-06 23:50:38

I'm somewhere on the lower end of the knowledge scale. I know some very basic CLI (sudo apt-get install swiftfox-i686; pacman - Syu; sudo shutdown -h now) and will master the art of manual installations by the end of January.

boromeus · 2010-12-07 02:07:12

I have custom made scripts for almost everything. Therefore, if I want to shutdown my Crunchbang box, I just use a custom keyboard-shortcut that launches the appropriate script. That's it.
When I use Windows XP (at someone else's place), it takes me three clicks and several seconds moving the mouse from wherever it is to the bottom left corner, from the bottom left corner to the middle.

Chewie · 2010-12-07 02:47:26

boromeus wrote:

I have custom made scripts for almost everything. Therefore, if I want to shutdown my Crunchbang box, I just use a custom keyboard-shortcut that launches the appropriate script. That's it.
When I use Windows XP (at someone else's place), it takes me three clicks and several seconds moving the mouse from wherever it is to the bottom left corner, from the bottom left corner to the middle.

Very good Idea my freng! wink

anonymous · 2010-12-07 04:44:22

So the question is about shutting down?

Windows: Start Menu > Shutdown button

Linux; Openbox: custom script (thanks to ADComp for helping me with it):

#!/usr/bin/env python2

# shutdown-dialog - logout/reboot/shutdown your computer with an
# easy-to-use dialog
# Copyright (C) 2008  Penguin Development
#
# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

import pygtk
pygtk.require("2.0")
import gtk

import os
import sys
import subprocess
import time

LOGOUT_COMMAND = "openbox --exit"

class ShutdownDialog:
    def __init__(self):
        iconsize = gtk.icon_size_register("32x32", 32, 32)

        self.window = gtk.Window()
        self.window.set_decorated(False)
        self.window.set_keep_above(True)

        self.frame1 = gtk.Frame()
        self.frame2 = gtk.Frame()

        self.layoutBox = gtk.VBox(False, 5)
        self.layoutBox.set_border_width(15)
        self.layoutBox.set_spacing(15)
        self.buttonsBox = gtk.HBox(True, 5)

        self.cancelButtonAlignment = gtk.Alignment(1.0, 0.5)

        self.logoutButton = self.make_button("Log Out", "gnome-logout", iconsize)
        self.restartButton = self.make_button("Restart", "gnome-session-reboot", iconsize)
        self.haltButton = self.make_button("Shut Down", "gnome-shutdown", iconsize)

        self.cancelButton = gtk.Button(None, gtk.STOCK_CANCEL)

        self.buttonsBox.pack_start(self.logoutButton)
        self.buttonsBox.pack_start(self.restartButton)
        self.buttonsBox.pack_start(self.haltButton)
        self.cancelButtonAlignment.add(self.cancelButton)

        self.layoutBox.pack_start(self.buttonsBox)
        self.layoutBox.pack_start(self.cancelButtonAlignment)

        self.window.add(self.layoutBox)

        self.window.show_all()

        self.window.set_gravity(gtk.gdk.GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST)
        w, h = self.window.get_size()
        self.window.move(gtk.gdk.screen_width() / 2 - w / 2,
            gtk.gdk.screen_height() / 2 - h / 2)

        self.window.connect("delete-event", self.terminate)
        self.cancelButton.connect("clicked", self.terminate)

        self.logoutButton.connect("clicked", self.logout)
        self.restartButton.connect("clicked", self.reboot)
        self.haltButton.connect("clicked", self.shutdown)

    def make_button(self, name, icon, iconsize):
        Button = gtk.Button()
        box = gtk.VBox()
        box.set_border_width(15)
        label = gtk.Label(name)
        ico = gtk.Image()
        ico.set_from_icon_name(icon, iconsize)
        box.pack_start(ico)
        box.pack_start(label)
        Button.add(box)
        return Button

    def main(self):
        gtk.main()

    def terminate(self, widget = None, data = None):
        gtk.main_quit()

    def logout(self, widget = None, data = None):
        self.callcmd(LOGOUT_COMMAND)

    def shutdown(self, widget = None, data = None):
        self.callcmd("sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now")

    def reboot(self, widget = None, data = None):
        self.callcmd("sudo /sbin/shutdown -r now")

    def callcmd(self, cmd):
        proc = subprocess.Popen(cmd, stdout = subprocess.PIPE, stderr =
                subprocess.PIPE, shell = True)
        starttime = time.time() * 1000

        status = proc.poll()
        while status is None and time.time() * 1000 < starttime + 5000:
            status = proc.poll()

        if status is None:
            if sys.hexversion >= 0x02060000:
                proc.kill()
            else:
                subprocess.Popen("kill -9 " + str(proc.pid), shell = True)

        self.terminate()

def main():
    shutdownDialog = ShutdownDialog()
    shutdownDialog.main()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    LOGOUT_COMMAND = os.getenv("LOGOUT_COMMAND", LOGOUT_COMMAND)

    if len(sys.argv) > 1:
        LOGOUT_COMMAND = " ".join(sys.argv[1:])

    main()

Linux; awesome: sudo shutdown -h now

jpope · 2010-12-07 05:04:06

Hmm... Shut down.

Linux: Rarely.
Windows: Daily.

big_smile

merelyjim · 2010-12-07 17:11:31

Yes, if you post in the general section, I think you'll find (as above) more than a few users that know how to shut Windows down and never make it come back again, or in the case of a school/work computer, how to turn it off and on again in the hopes that the glitch will resolve itself.

On the linux side, I have to think about it. Does [sudo pm-suspend] count? It's been a while since I actually turned my netbook off... smile

Anyway, post the survey. We'll take it.

slapfish · 2010-12-07 17:27:25

#!: if I'm holding the mouse right click, exit, shutdown. If I'm on keyboard, super+x, left arrow, left arrow, left arrow, enter.

windows: right click, realize that there is no exit menu entry there, move mouse to the left corner and press the button for shutdown (vista and 7).

Last edited by slapfish (2010-12-07 17:27:39)

safetycopy · 2010-12-07 17:43:00

slapfish wrote:

windows: right click, realize that there is no exit menu entry there

big_smile I do the same thing in Windows

Last edited by safetycopy (2010-12-07 17:43:19)

fatboyandy · 2010-12-09 16:43:16

thanks everyone, i'm working on the questionnaire and will get it uploaded asap.

and just for the sake of it windows command prompt is the same as terminal (#shutdown)

will get back very soon, cheers everyone

Vicophine · 2010-12-09 19:33:18

"sudo shutdown -r now" to reboot
"sudo shutdown -h now" to shutdown

Windows - Windows key - enter - enter. tongue

CrunchyFree · 2010-12-09 20:53:40

I used to know how to do the time thing so you can set it to shutdown in like 35 minutes so someone'll be playing on your computer and then the message pops up "Stop touching me!" before shutting down.

charlie01 · 2010-12-09 20:57:19

CrunchyFree wrote:

I used to know how to do the time thing so you can set it to shutdown in like 35 minutes so someone'll be playing on your computer and then the message pops up "Stop touching me!" before shutting down.

You need to relearn it so you can teach that to me.

lol

Unia · 2010-12-09 21:15:38

I think he refers to something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9pVdxM6GmM

CrunchyFree · 2010-12-09 22:04:59

charlie01 wrote:

CrunchyFree wrote:
I used to know how to do the time thing so you can set it to shutdown in like 35 minutes so someone'll be playing on your computer and then the message pops up "Stop touching me!" before shutting down.
You need to relearn it so you can teach that to me.
lol

Well when you say now you're saying to shutdown now so you just choose a time and then you can change the display message for when your computer is about to shutdown which you can make whatever you want. There's a whole internet about doing this sort of thing (linux.org also).

charlie01 · 2010-12-09 22:54:16

Unia wrote:

I think he refers to something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9pVdxM6GmM

I have changed the icons on my xp desktop for various reasons,One being i hate internet explorer,And everyone else that sees the computer automatically clicks on that stupid E logo.
So i changed it to a Yahoo logo,Now everyone automatically clicks on the firefox logo.

My boss who is computer illiterate uses it,But hes convinced its a Yahoo browser.
The only reason its on there at all is he is used to it.
But seeing how this trick was done is great,Some day if i ever get up the steam,ill pull this on him.
He will think he broke it,Or infested it with viruses.

LOL

CrunchyFree · 2010-12-09 23:01:22

charlie01 wrote:

Unia wrote:
I think he refers to something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9pVdxM6GmM
I have changed the icons on my xp desktop for various reasons,One being i hate internet explorer,And everyone else that sees the computer automatically clicks on that stupid E logo.
So i changed it to a Yahoo logo,Now everyone automatically clicks on the firefox logo.
My boss who is computer illiterate uses it,But hes convinced its a Yahoo browser.
The only reason its on there at all is he is used to it.
But seeing how this trick was done is great,Some day if i ever get up the steam,ill pull this on him.
He will think he broke it,Or infested it with viruses.
LOL

That or change the Firefox icon to IE and the Yahoo icon to Firefox and eventually get rid of IE all together.

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