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You could also install a different display manager that supports switching sessions (e.g., lightdm) instead of SLiM.
In that case, you would pick either Openbox or LXDE from the session menu when you login.
#! dropped its multi-session support when it dumped the XFCE option a while back. It used to be an option in the cb-welcome script, as I recall.
Thats what I tried to do in the first place. I actually edited slim.conf and tried to set something like "lxde" as session name, but it didn't work. Looks like both use the session named openbox-session, which I presume to be the default openbox session name.
This seems logical from a technical stand point as both use openbox as their window manager (so much I learned from this discussion). But from a user perspective it would be nice to be able to choose lxde with it's own or the Crunchbang openbox configuration.
arra wrote:Are LXDE and Crunchbang sharing too much of the same tools, that it's general not possible or advisable to use them parallelly?
I think, it's just not neccessary to install LXDE parallel to #!. If you want a bit more of a conservative look as starting point for exploring #! : just apt-get install lxpanel and lxshortcut. Then edit ~/.config/openbox/autostart and replace tint2 with lxpanel. Reboot and you have your convenient selfupdating lxpanel-menu. That's what i do first after a fresh crunchbang install.
Apart from the panel (tint2 vs. lxpanel) and a different choice of some apps i don't see so much difference at all between lxde and #!. Just that #! gives you those fantastic preconfigured keyboard-shortcuts plus that equally fantastic right-click menu, that i won't miss anymore.
Thanks for the advice. I'll give that a try - as the selfupdating menu at the main thing interupting my accustomed workflow. There might be more, but I hope they will all be easily solvable by the great tutorials that can be found in this forum.
Towards the differenciation between DE and DM: I would place my needs somewhere inbetween both. Especially as the DEs tend to get bloated and less configurable. I need a window manager and some more functionality (like pluggable USB, easily reachable network drives, some specific things for my programming work, etc) without too much effort (15 years ago I decided to not use a system which needs unreasonable time to install/configure). At the moment I have the impression that Crunchbang is well thought out and when seen together with the forum solutions for further needs, is worth to try as an install for the lifetime of Debian Wheezy (the same laptop did already run with basically one install through the lifetime of Debian Squeeze).
So I understand from the answers that it is advisable not to install a full desktop environment along side? Of course it would be great to have that freedeom (like it's possible to install KDE and Gnome and switch between both), but I guess there are too much background daemons etc installed for that.
Hello all,
I'm new to Crunchbang and this forum. I played a bit with Waldorf in Virtualbox and like it's simplicity and the idea of the design a lot (though i prefer light colours, which have been easy enough to change).
Now I installed Waldorf (20130119) on my Notebook. I am coming from a simple LXDE desktop (Gnome 2 beforehand). So my plan has been to install LXDE alongside to be able to do my work and to explore and configure Crunchbang in my spare time.
I just did a "aptitude install lxde" and a set of applications I need for work. The result was that the SLIM login manager now boots directly into LXDE, but I lost the ability to boot into Crunchbang.
What I discovered so far ist that the session "openbox-session" now starts LXDE. If I change this to "openbox" I get into a "kind of" Crunchbang Desktop with several parts and configurations missing.
My questions are:
Are LXDE and Crunchbang sharing too much of the same tools, that it's general not possible or advisable to use them parallelly?
Or is it something fixable? Any pointers or guidelines for that?
Is this something which can and will be fixed in a future Crunchbang release?
If LXDE is not possible or advisable, would this setup be possible with Crunchbang and XFCE?
Thanks in advance,
Daniel
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