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#26 2015-09-10 18:01:24

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

hhh wrote:

After having made alpha1 and alpha2 live ISOs available for testing in early July, on the 22nd of July I predicted September for the next ISO release and boom goes the dynamite.

Group hugs for everyone!

Very nice historical reference.  We are on Day One - added to my date/days conky
2015_09_10_14_55_20_Scrot11.png

And in answer to your question, Yup, I have a conky for almost everything!


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#27 2015-09-10 20:14:18

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Great work guys, thank you very much!

2 short questions. If I am running an earlier version, but update your packages from

http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian

then does it also create the changes in the different configuration files (for conky, tint, autostart, etc), or not?

My other question is rather a suggestion. In the following thread we are thinking about the behaviour of Midnight Commander:

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=40592

Now, I understand that Bunsenlabs does not ship with mc automatically. However, I somehow cannot understand how is it that mc behaves appropriately under a proper desktop environment (KDE, GNOME or XFCE) and not in Bunsenlabs when opening files. Currently it seems as it is somehow related to how xdg-open handles file openings. I am wondering if you may want to take a look at this at some point.

Keep up the good work, and thank you for your efforts! I really like what you are doing, and I have installed bunsenlabs on 4 of my machines, with 2 more to come at some point in the future.

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#28 2015-09-10 21:34:45

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

ghorvath wrote:

My other question is rather a suggestion. In the following thread we are thinking about the behaviour of Midnight Commander:

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=40592

Now, I understand that Bunsenlabs does not ship with mc automatically. However, I somehow cannot understand how is it that mc behaves appropriately under a proper desktop environment (KDE, GNOME or XFCE) and not in Bunsenlabs when opening files. Currently it seems as it is somehow related to how xdg-open handles file openings. I am wondering if you may want to take a look at this at some point.

Keep up the good work, and thank you for your efforts! I really like what you are doing, and I have installed bunsenlabs on 4 of my machines, with 2 more to come at some point in the future.

I can answer that part. If one of the common desktop environment is installed, xdg-open will use kde-open (KDE), pcmanfm (LXDE), gvfs-open/mate-open (MATE), gvfs-open/gnome-open (GNOME) or exo-open (XFCE) before trying some generic methods. The desktop-provided handlers generally implement much better methods than plain old xdg-open (which is a PITA shell script) and maintain their own mime-type databases, producing better results.

You can however marshall kde-open, gvfs-open etc for your purposes (given that they're installed) by setting the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP environment variable. Here's the relevant part from the xdg-open source code:

if [ -n "${XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP}" ]; then
      case "${XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP}" in
         ENLIGHTENMENT)
           DE=enlightenment;
           ;;
         GNOME)
           DE=gnome;
           ;;
         KDE)
           DE=kde;
           ;;
         LXDE)
           DE=lxde;
           ;;
         MATE)
           DE=mate;
           ;;
         XFCE)
           DE=xfce
           ;;
      esac
    fi

so you may set it to the values above in order to use the handlers I just listed.

As for the handling of this in BL, I'll have a look if gvfs-open can be used by setting XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=gnome for our Openbox session (it's likely that it's already installed by default).
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Edit: Tracking this issue now here: https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-configs/issues/30


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#29 2015-09-10 21:53:43

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Is someone has problem with dpi scaling in live mode?

In graphical installer I get error "Unmounted CD" and I can't install BL. How to run install script in live mode?

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#30 2015-09-11 01:35:07

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

For resolution in the Live session, check xrandr (right-click menu>Preferences>Display).

The second part of your post doesn't make much sense, there is no install script available to run from the live desktop. To install, reboot the ISO and choose "Graphical Install" or "Install" from the menu. Here's a walkthrough of the installer...

The installer starts...

  • Choose your Language

  • Choose your Location

  • Choose your Keyboard layout

  • Wait for network detection

  • Choose your connection (I chose wlan0)

  • Enter security type (my wireless uses wpa2)

  • Enter passphrase

  • Enter hostname (name your computer)

  • Enter domain (leave blank)

  • Enter user name (name yourself)

  • Enter user account (leave the same)

  • User password (choose sudo password)

  • Verify password

  • Set time zone

  • Partition (I chose manual)

  • Choose partition (I had created a 10G blank partition with gparted, /dev/sda7)

  • Use as (ext4)

  • Format (no, I had also formatted it, but you can format it here)

  • Mount point (/)

  • Done setting up the partition

  • Finish/write

  • Write? (yes)

  • Format (it wants to reformat swap, yes)

  • Install starts (wait a few minutes)

  • Choose mirror location (I chose US)

  • Choose mirror URL (I chose ftp.us.debian.org)

  • Http proxy (none)

  • wait 10 minutes or more

  • Install Grub to Master Boot Record (yes)

  • Choose drive (I chose /dev/sda)

  • Is system clock set to UTC? (I chose yes, you can always fix this later if it's wrong)

  • Installation completes

  • Reboot and remove the USB drive

If you still have trouble please open a support thread in the Bunsen "Stable" forum, thanks!


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#31 2015-09-11 03:49:55

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs


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#32 2015-09-12 18:11:11

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

dbvolvox wrote:

Terrific!  I have been using alpha2 since July without any issues and will do the package change in the next day or so.

Please know that all the work has been so worth it for those that value a clean and ergonomic desk top design.

Thank you, thank you.
(And the website looks great also.)

Upgrade done, no issues.
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#33 2015-09-12 22:45:01

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Sector11 wrote:

And in answer to your question, Yup, I have a conky for almost everything!

I was just about to ask  smile

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#34 2015-09-12 22:47:36

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Today, I actually came to the forum to ask if we were still at Alpha 2 - boy did I get good news! I'm looking forward to the finished product.

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#35 2015-09-13 03:55:28

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

THANK YOU! to all involved in putting together Bunsenlabs. I just downloaded the 64bit torrent and ran a live usb. Looks really really nice. I kinda knew I wouldn't be disappointed.

Im still using #! stable (squeeze?) on my main system and now I have something worthy to replace it with. Looking forward to getting it installed.

Great work everyone  big_smile

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#36 2015-09-13 10:49:16

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Hi
First, thank you very much for the distro!

I am trying to install the RC1 on USB flash drive but the installer doesn't seem to support UEFI (it works only in legacy mode).
I was trying to install it via Debian netinstall but I have some problems with wifi drivers and no lan available.

When I try to make bootable USB with Rufus for MBR Partition scheme for UEFI, I am getting: "When using UEFI Target Type, only EFI bootable ISO image are supported. Please select an EFI bootable ISO or set the Target Type to BIOS"

Is there going to be a version with UEFI support in the nearest future?

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#37 2015-09-13 11:26:07

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

The installer is based on the upstream Debian version and at the moment the live Debian ISO images *cannot* be booted or install in UEFI mode.

There are workarounds:

Also, I would advise using USBWriter (from Windows) as it is a bit more reliable than Rufus.

For transferring the ISO image to a USB stick in a GNU/Linux environment, follow the official Debian instructions.

*Do not* attempt to use unetbootin to transfer the ISO image as it doesn't work for Debian images.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=775689

postdante wrote:

I was trying to install it via Debian netinstall but I have some problems with wifi drivers and no lan available.

You need to make sure that you use one of the unofficial ISO images that already include the non-free firmware required by your ethernet & wireless cards.
32-bit version
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#38 2015-09-13 12:15:25

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

@Head_on_a_Stick

Thank you very much for the comprehensive answer! I will give it a try,

EDIT: Success, testing already smile

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#39 2015-09-13 12:39:22

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Hi, old time Crunchbang user, back for some Bunsen goodness.

I installed the RC1 ISO on my netbook last night. All went well, WiFi connected, everything working as expected....except apt doesn't seem a happy bunny. Is this expected?

When trying to install chrome / chromium via the scripts in the menu, or if I try to install SSH for example, I get an error that I requested an impossible situation due to unmet dependencies:

sudo apt-get install bunsen-meta-ssh
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 bunsen-meta-ssh : Depends: openssh-server but it is not installable
                   Depends: openssh-client but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Any way to fix this if this is unexpected? I haven't messed with any of the default options since install, though I did complete the install script that runs once you log in for the first time - but I declined most of the options other than the ones that seemed to be recommended.

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#40 2015-09-13 17:06:09

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

@prupert, that's the first report I've seen of that. I created a new issue in the Support thread to troubleshoot it, please continue discussion there, and thanks for the feedback!
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 35#p439335


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#41 2015-09-14 07:09:01

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

I installed BL on a VM last Friday, will install it on a spare ThinkPad at home sometime this week.
So far it has worked flawlessly on the VM and will become my primary browsing tool at work.

Thanks a lot to the whole team for your hard work with BL


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#42 2015-09-15 19:24:19

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Congratulations, it looks like you are about to put both the # and the ! back into Linux!  smile


Time to move on!#

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#43 2015-09-16 13:39:17

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

omg, it's happening.

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#44 2015-09-17 13:26:30

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

One thing I have noticed: in the "BL-right-lua" conky, the calendar at the top has the days labelled as a week that begins on Sunday, while the date numbers below it seem to be laid out as week beginning on Monday. As a result, the dates are one day misaligned.

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#45 2015-09-17 14:27:54

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

photonucleon wrote:

One thing I have noticed: in the "BL-right-lua" conky, the calendar at the top has the days labelled as a week that begins on Sunday, while the date numbers below it seem to be laid out as week beginning on Monday. As a result, the dates are one day misaligned.

Good catch. Fixed and pushed to github.

(Hell, we're efficient! O:) )


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#46 2015-09-17 18:01:09

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

damo wrote:
photonucleon wrote:

One thing I have noticed: in the "BL-right-lua" conky, the calendar at the top has the days labelled as a week that begins on Sunday, while the date numbers below it seem to be laid out as week beginning on Monday. As a result, the dates are one day misaligned.

Good catch. Fixed and pushed to github.

(Hell, we're efficient! O:) )

How did you fix it damo?


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#47 2015-09-17 18:10:29

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Looks like he changed gap_y from 20 to 45.


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#48 2015-09-17 18:17:53

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

hhh wrote:

Looks like he changed gap_y from 20 to 45.

That was the second push - first time was a conkyrc that I must have edited the gap_y, so I got it from a fresh install and pushed the correction.
The relevant change was

${goto 27}${color0}SU MO ${color5}${time %b %Y}${color0} FR SA

to

${goto 27}${color0}Mo TU ${color5}${time %b %Y}${color0} SA SU

Bollox, I've made a typo sad (Should be "MO" not "Mo") I'll fix it later, but now I'm out to dinner with my daughter who is off to Uni.


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#49 2015-09-17 18:38:27

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

hhh wrote:

Looks like he changed gap_y from 20 to 45.

No that would change the position of the entire conky, not the calendar alignment, it would be something along these lines:

 17 Sep 15 | 15:23:20 ~
    $ ncal -bh
   September 2015     
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa  
       1  2  3  4  5  
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12  
13 14 15 16 17 18 19  
20 21 22 23 24 25 26  
27 28 29 30           
      
 17 Sep 15 | 15:23:30 ~
    $ ncal -bhM
   September 2015     
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su  
    1  2  3  4  5  6  
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13  
14 15 16 17 18 19 20  
21 22 23 24 25 26 27  
28 29 30              
                      
 17 Sep 15 | 15:23:40 ~
    $

No if cal (ncal) configures itself according the the calendar format set by "locale" then the "-M" switch isn't needed but the hard coded line above the calendar and the line executing the calendar will have to be changed to match the "locale" ... maybe:

${goto 27}${color1}${execpi 7200 LAR=`date +%-d`; ncal -bh | sed 's/\<'$LAR'\>/${color5}&${color1}/' | sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/\n${goto 27}/g'}${color}${font}

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#50 2015-09-17 18:41:47

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Re: [RELEASE] BunsenLabs 8.2 (Hydrogen) RC1 Live ISOs

Changing the hard coded line will make the calendar wrong for people whose week starts on Sunday - like mine.  big_smile

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EDIT:  Proper fix coming soon.  Temp fix is:

TEXT
${font Liberation Mono:bold:size=10}${alignc}${color5}${time %X}
${goto 27}${color1}${execpi 7200 LAR=`date +%-d`; ncal -bh | sed 's/\<'$LAR'\>/${color5}&${color1}/' | sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/\n${goto 27}/g'}${color}${font}
${alignc}S Y S T E M    I N F O

to be continued in the Conky Thread


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