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#1 2015-02-27 04:11:45

JoeS
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Question about Crunchbang?

I just found out the news about Crunchbang today. I will miss Crunchbang. How long with support be for Waldorf? How soon should a person switch back to Debian? Would like to find a tutorial to set up Debian to run similar to Crunchbang.

Thanks

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#2 2015-02-27 04:16:36

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

JoeS wrote:

I just found out the news about Crunchbang today. I will miss Crunchbang. How long with support be for Waldorf? How soon should a person switch back to Debian? Would like to find a tutorial to set up Debian to run similar to Crunchbang.

Thanks

There will be support for as long as Debian supports wheezy, although Waldorf itself is not maintained. Otherwise search the forum for how to upgrade to jessie and keep your crunchbang configuration without breaking it. (Forum Search icon at the top right of the page wink )

You need to follow the discussions and projects going on in the BunsenLabs forum for what will happen next.


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#3 2015-02-27 08:10:55

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

Debian will likely continue support for wheezy for quite a while yet thanks to the systemd controversy.

You could just keep Waldorf installed and make sure you stay on top of the security updates (ie, `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade` every week or so).

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#4 2015-02-28 02:15:09

JoeS
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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

Do I need to edit anything in the sources.list file?

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#5 2015-02-28 02:20:44

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

^make sure they point to Wheezy, not stable. In a while stable will mean Jessie.


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#6 2015-02-28 04:42:47

JoeS
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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

I am unsure if I should keep the entries to Crunchbang. Here is my sources.list. Does it look ok?
Thanks

## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Wheezy, but use at your own risk.
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main
#deb-src http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

## DEBIAN
deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
# deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

## backports
# deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main

## Multi-media
#deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free


### aptitude install deb-multimedia-keyring
### aptitude update
### aptitude safe-upgrade

## Add this line for Opera browser
## use "stable" instead of distribution name
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera stable non-free

## Now, we are going to trust Opera :
## wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | apt-key add -

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#7 2015-02-28 07:18:49

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

^ I'd comment out the Crunchbang line.  (NOTE:  Before your next update/upgrade, purge tint2conf.  The short version of the story is that the Tint2 in Waldorf was built from source because the version in Wheezy was too old for corenominal's taste, and tint2conf was a separate package at the time.  If you don't purge that package, the conflicts between it and the latest tint2 in Wheezy will break X.  Also, your GRUB background will change to the Wheezy default.)

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#8 2015-02-28 10:24:16

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

JoeS wrote:

I am unsure if I should keep the entries to Crunchbang. Here is my sources.list. Does it look ok?
Thanks

## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Wheezy, but use at your own risk.
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main
#deb-src http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

## DEBIAN
deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
# deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

## backports
# deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main

## Multi-media
#deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free


### aptitude install deb-multimedia-keyring
### aptitude update
### aptitude safe-upgrade

## Add this line for Opera browser
## use "stable" instead of distribution name
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera stable non-free

## Now, we are going to trust Opera :
## wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | apt-key add -

Looks fine to me (apart from Opera -- why for $DEITY's sake, why?).

My personal preference was always to remove any non-Debian repositories, delete the /etc/apt/preferences file and `apt-get dist-upgrade` to get the system as close to Debian wheezy as possible to minimize the risk of borkage (follow @pvsage's excellent advice if you do this).

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#9 2015-03-01 03:10:33

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

pvsage,  Ive commented out the crunchbang from my sources. I have the tint2 error when updating and it did break my X last update but i got it working again from searching the forum.

How exactly do i purge tint2conf? Thanks.

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#10 2015-03-01 03:12:19

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

sudo apt-get purge tint2

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#11 2015-03-01 17:51:16

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

hy one question purge tint2 or tint2conf or both because

pvsage wrote:

purge tint2conf.

and

tknomanzr wrote:

sudo apt-get purge tint2

yikes
thanks


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#12 2015-03-01 17:56:07

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

tint2conf is part of the tint2 package so purging tint2 will get rid of tint2conf.

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#13 2015-03-01 18:31:36

wagmic1
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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

PVSAGE wrote:

The short version of the story is that the Tint2 in Waldorf was built from source because the version in Wheezy was too old for corenominal's taste, and tint2conf was a separate package at the time

So we just have to purge tint2conf
if i comment the waldorf repos in sources-list, an upgrade will reinstall automatically the new version of tint2.


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#14 2015-03-02 01:29:14

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

IIRC, I only had to purge tint2conf, but it probably is safer to purge both and reinstall tint2.  After commenting out Waldorf in your /etc/apt/sources.list and deleting (or renaming) your /etc/apt/preferences:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get purge tint2 tint2conf
sudo apt-get install tint2 --reinstall

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#15 2015-03-02 03:29:05

JoeS
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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

What would be the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade when updating Wheezy. I thought the dist-upgrade was used to upgrade to a new release.

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#16 2015-03-02 07:58:00

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Re: Question about Crunchbang?

JoeS wrote:

What would be the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade when updating Wheezy. I thought the dist-upgrade was used to upgrade to a new release.

The `dist-upgrade` command allows APT to remove programs.

man apt-get wrote:

       dist-upgrade
           dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently
           handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart"
           conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages
           at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The dist-upgrade command may
           therefore remove some packages. The /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of
           locations from which to retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5)
           for a mechanism for overriding the general settings for individual packages.

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