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#1 2014-08-24 18:08:04

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Linux Format August 2014 issue

#! is included in magazine article entitled "Roundup... Low Resource Distros" though the article is too short and gets details wrong, like #! is derived from Arch.  Not a good read IMHO.

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#2 2014-08-24 18:11:27

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

They only make that mistake once and rate #! second (behind ELive but ahead of Manjaro); I didn't think it was that bad...
They should have made more of the #! forums though! big_smile

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#3 2014-08-24 18:23:18

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

lol wow, derived from Arch.... Right. lol

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#4 2014-08-24 18:25:43

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Where is this?


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#5 2014-08-24 18:32:27

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

^ http://www.linuxformat.com/
It's an English magazine, new staff (the old staff left to start Linux Voice --- a far superior magazine), not a bad read...

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#6 2014-08-24 18:38:04

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Well, of course #! is derived from Arch! I mean... it has pacman in the repos.

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/pacman

]:D  8o  roll

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#7 2014-08-24 18:49:07

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

^  8o  lol  lol  lol

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#8 2014-08-24 19:07:56

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

CSCoder4ever wrote:

^  8o  lol  lol  lol

+1

Well I'll be - I never realized that ARCH was about chasing monsters.

 24 Aug 14 | 16:03:25 ~
    $ ser pacman
p   pacman - Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth                             
p   pacman4console - a console based pacman game

I can feel the lasers of ARCH users honing in on me now.  ]:D

OK, I'm not going to sign up to read an article.


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#9 2014-08-24 19:59:06

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

I did enjoy the rest of the issue.  Just this article seemed much too light and was poorly organized.

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#10 2014-08-25 13:50:37

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I didn't think it was that bad...

Which one? The first, the second or the third?

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#11 2014-08-25 13:51:43

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

^ The review; I read it again last night & I think the OP is right --- a bit slapdash...
hmm

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#12 2014-08-25 14:08:59

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

I read this quite often.
Makes you think what else they get wrong...

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#13 2014-08-25 14:25:08

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

The thing about the magazines is that most of the resources they supply are already freely available.
Linux Format did a feature on systemd that was essentially a reprint of the man page...
Although Linux Voice appears to be better, they did publish a guide to installing Arch (which I had to correct) that was clearly lifted directly from the Arch Beginner's Guide (except slightly out of date).

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#14 2014-08-25 15:55:06

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Although Linux Voice appears to be better, they did publish a guide to installing Arch (which I had to correct) that was clearly lifted directly from the Arch Beginner's Guide (except slightly out of date).

^ And without giving any credit of course. Meh. I'd send him a copy of the GNU Free Documentation License (which ArchWiki is based on). Actually, I'm going to do that right now.

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#15 2014-08-25 16:58:31

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Don't wiki's tend to have a Creative Commons licence with the condition against using the information for profit, which a magazine would be for?

sounds a bit like those tennis and chess writers in the Times who've been constantly plagiarising tonnes of other papers articles and getting away with it. hmm

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#16 2014-08-25 22:32:03

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

They only make that mistake once and rate #! second (behind ELive but ahead of Manjaro); I didn't think it was that bad...
They should have made more of the #! forums though! big_smile


Behind ELive?!! What??!!!


~ Wait - what? ~

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#17 2014-08-26 12:26:51

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

^ Somebody has to be first.  Why not Zoidberg?

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#18 2014-08-26 12:47:41

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Whoooop whoooop whooop, *scuttles off into the distance*

Things like that always have a little personal preference, so i think the reviewer just preferred the overall feel, compared to #!. Enlightenment's still quite popular among people *shrugs*

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#19 2014-08-26 21:55:08

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

Overall and over time (this is not the first review/inclusion of #! in Linux Format) they are fairly complimentary about #!, but err on the side of caution as #! is not always for the beginner in their eyes (e.g. not like Windows enough for a Windows user to easily switch) - hence why Enlightment came out on top.

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#20 2014-09-21 05:22:11

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Re: Linux Format August 2014 issue

73ChargerFan wrote:

#! is included in magazine article entitled "Roundup... Low Resource Distros" though the article is too short and gets details wrong, like #! is derived from Arch.  Not a good read IMHO.

That was an error and a statement of correction appears in the September issue.  Something about the guy who put the review together being up too late to meet the print/publish deadline.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ http://www.linuxformat.com/
It's an English magazine, new staff (the old staff left to start Linux Voice --- a far superior magazine), not a bad read...

I wouldn't say it's far superior.  In fact, and I hate to say this because I like the guys over at Linux Voice, I think Linux Format has gotten better since some of the old guard left.


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