The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

engines · 2014-02-25 00:02:18

Help!
Followed the instructions and Firefox works just fine. I have a small problem though, and it's that I can't launch the browser from the terminal. I have to manually navigate to ~/firefox with thunar and press the firefox file for it to run. If I write firefox in terminal I just get a 'command not found' message.
Also: since the browser wasn't installed through apt or dpkg, how does it actually work?? I hope this isn't too stupid a question :8

ivanovnegro · 2014-02-25 01:30:08

Apart from HELP! the questions are not stupid.

Of course you cannot run it just like this from the terminal, you need to open it like this:

~/firefox/firefox-bin

because it is in your home folder not in /usr/bin where usually applications are installed. That is why some recommend to run it from /opt. But I would confuse you even more, that is also somewhere buried in this thread. Make an alias in your .bashrc or an application shortcut and you can run it, no need to execute it from terminal. I think that is in the how-to.

engines wrote:

Also: since the browser wasn't installed through apt or dpkg, how does it actually work??

This part I do not understand. It works, that's it. Firefox comes with an executable and just runs from your home folder. Many apps can be run this way.

engines · 2014-02-25 16:37:47

Hey ivanov, thanks for the quick reply.

engines@computadora:~/firefox$ firefox-bin
bash: firefox-bin: command not found

This part I do not understand. It works, that's it. Firefox comes with an executable and just runs from your home folder. Many apps can be run this way.

I guess my question is a bit out of the scope of this thread: if Firefox can run like this, why doesn't every other program do as well?
And viceversa. I understand shared dependencies makes it more efficient to put different files in different directories, so then why isn't Firefox installed that way? After all Iceweasel and Firefox are (fwiu) identical save for branding, and Iceweasel had its files spread all over the system.
Of course it just werks, and that's alright. I would simply like to not need to remember to launch some programs from elsewhere when/if I'm running most other things from terminal.

Appreciate the help

ivanovnegro · 2014-02-25 16:59:04

Ok, where exactly did you put your firefox executable? You have to point there from the terminal or open the terminal in Thunar in that place.
If you followed my how-to it would be like I already said but exactly this way:

~/firefox/firefox-bin

Maybe make a copy/paste. It works also with firefox instead of firefox-bin.

The second part is logical because you are not really installing Firefox when you download it from the official source. You are just running if from the directory you put it in. But when you install Iceweasel you use the package manager and all apps you install from your repos will run from /usr/bin.

Last edited by ivanovnegro (2014-02-25 17:00:10)

engines · 2014-02-25 19:33:18

Hey,
yes, I followed your how-to ivan. Everything seems so to be in its right place.

engines@computadora:~/firefox$ ls -a
.                   libfreebl3.so     libxul.so
..                  libmozalloc.so    mozilla-xremote-client
application.ini     libmozsqlite3.so  omni.ja
browser             libnspr4.so       platform.ini
chrome.manifest     libnss3.so        plugin-container
components          libnssckbi.so     precomplete
crashreporter       libnssdbm3.chk    removed-files
crashreporter.ini   libnssdbm3.so     run-mozilla.sh
defaults            libnssutil3.so    Throbber-small.gif
dependentlibs.list  libplc4.so        updater
dictionaries        libplds4.so       updater.ini
firefox             libsmime3.so      update-settings.ini
firefox-bin         libsoftokn3.chk   webapprt
icons               libsoftokn3.so    webapprt-stub
libfreebl3.chk      libssl3.so
engines@computadora:~/firefox$ firefox-bin
bash: firefox-bin: command not found
engines@computadora:~/firefox$ firefox
bash: firefox: command not found

Make a copy paste of what?

you are not really installing Firefox

Exactly! Could it be or, by design, is it not possible?

- UPDATE -
I read in an unrelated page that chmod +x makes files executable? Maybe that's what's lacking?

Last edited by engines (2014-02-25 20:09:23)

ivanovnegro · 2014-02-26 15:18:42

Por qué no copias esta parte:

~/firefox/firefox-bin

Escribe lo de arriba exactamente así en la terminal.

engines · 2014-02-26 16:37:51

Ahh con la ruta completa si funciona. Voy a hacer un alias.

Gracias!

holden · 2014-02-26 17:39:41

While I usually have no problems whatsoever with IceWeasel, and thus was not in terrible need for 'original' FF, i had a dealbreaker: Iceweasel wouldn't open the menu for logging in on www.medium.com for me (if you visit the site and click on the M in the top left of the screen, you'll see what I'm talking about).
Anyway i could make it work in IceWeasel? Firefox opens it nicely, but I hesitate of going out of Debian's repos.

Thanks in advance!

ivanovnegro · 2014-02-26 17:53:26

^ Not sure. No Iceweasel here but it could be a fonts issue. Can you try and change the font settings in Iceweasel and allow site fonts rather than forcing yours. Or just try with a clean profile, I think it should work and you have to pin down what is wrong.

@Engines: Disculpa, ruta completa, esto fue.

Edit: One more thing.

Last edited by ivanovnegro (2014-02-26 17:55:10)

holden · 2014-02-26 18:20:48

Tried it, but it doesn't work. On the other hand Firefox works, even though it uses the same info as IW, even cookies and bookmarks.

engines · 2014-02-26 19:29:04

@Engines: Disculpa, ruta completa, esto fue.

Hmm what
Anyway thanks again. Gonna look at that MPD tutorial later btw.

ivanovnegro · 2014-02-26 20:41:55

And later you will pimp your fonts.

engines · 2014-02-26 21:23:22

Already got dat Terminus game going bruh Still need to go over some rough rxvt spots though, and I haven't even begun ricing the graphical part proper yet...so much to do. Not a bad thing really, it's fun.

samurro · 2014-08-22 09:02:50

After I replaced Iceweasel by this method, I want to run firefox in cooperation with sandfox. My linux knowledge isn't the best, so can somebody exlpain to me, how I tell my crunchbang that "firefox" means firefox or how to use sandbox with this Firefox?

Edit:

I got it working, after creating a symbolic link for firefox and bindro the home folder where Firefox was extracted to.

Last edited by samurro (2014-08-22 14:42:09)

KrunchTime · 2014-11-01 10:29:48

I was just checking out the links in the OP and the 64-bit version is now on the official home page.

cq1st · 2014-11-20 06:59:42

go engines! and long live slow starting firefox!

(the puppy guys'll come in here and tell you how to make it start instantly, but the girls mauled him to death a few years back,..so)

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