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#26 2013-12-17 02:40:29

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#27 2013-12-17 03:28:34

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#28 2013-12-17 07:51:09

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#29 2013-12-17 09:18:03

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#30 2013-12-17 14:51:21

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#31 2013-12-17 18:15:41

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#32 2013-12-17 20:27:58

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#33 2013-12-17 21:38:52

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#34 2013-12-17 21:52:51

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#35 2013-12-17 22:08:21

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Re: Pros and Cons of #! with Openbox

^what porkpiehat said

@dhinds
My initial reaction with this distro was the same as many: "Why doesn't the menu autoupdate?" After doing it manually for a while I came to prefer it absolutely. Why should I let an installed app decide which sub-menu it should put itself in? I don't want to go around manually editing .desktop files to change categories.

And like most people here I now dislike autoupdating menus and desktop icons, and find they actually reduce ease-of-use.

There are always suggestions about what should be in the cb-welcome script, and corenominal has to draw the line somewhere. It's his distro after all. FWIW I think your idea is OK, but it's down to the developer how much time he wants to spend including it - after all it's a relatively easy user option to enable

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#36 2013-12-18 01:10:22

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Agree with those above here. But it`s a bit strange. I don`t want my car to be as simple and minimal as possible.


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#37 2013-12-18 02:14:18

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Re: Pros and Cons of #! with Openbox

My main problem was being able to navigate from workspace to workspace and from application to application.  Installing the LXpanel let me add a widget to minimize all windows, which let me get to the OB Panel, at least.  But running the XFCE4-Panel puts a little more control where I can use it and is very easy to do.

I would agree that the #! forums make a big difference (which is what I asked) and that doesn't depend on one distro-owner (which I was a little leery of with Solus, even before that distro-owner suddenly dumped the distro - although he was attempting to initiate a totally new one and found he needed more resources (although he was very good at what he was doing - Solus was much more stable than LMDE).

After all, we are talking about Debian Stable and Openbox.  The rest is about what is included and/or left out. 

After I unsuspended #! on the machine I installed it on I found it to be somewhat sluggish and rebooted to another Debian / Openbox distro that has some things I would like to remove.  (It also has a theme I don't like so I changed it, in the live session).  I haven't installed it and will be booting back into #! soon.

As I said, the XFCE4-panel seems to solve the problem for me, although I tried it on this other distro, first.  (Sparky Ultra - Openbox).

Open Source is Open Source and Open Source is not Closed.   wink

I might want to run #! as Debian Testing, and I assume that doing that can be (and is being) done.

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#38 2013-12-18 02:35:50

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#39 2013-12-18 12:18:20

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#40 2013-12-18 13:28:12

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#41 2013-12-18 16:22:28

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#42 2013-12-18 16:25:21

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#43 2013-12-18 16:38:02

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#44 2013-12-18 17:16:38

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#45 2013-12-18 17:58:41

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#46 2013-12-18 18:32:11

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#47 2014-02-05 19:16:11

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#48 2014-02-05 19:18:22

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#49 2014-02-05 23:10:38

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Re: Pros and Cons of #! with Openbox

the first few posts answer your main question. the big difference between #! and other distros is which linux flavor they're based on. #! is debian stable, archbang is arch, (most) linuxBBQs are based on debian sid... and on and on...

i used a few other distros with "windows-like" features (e.g. linux mint). i decided i wanted something more minimal as a base that i could configure and run to my liking. #! is a really *solid* base (debian stable is a big part of that) with minimal installed components to run the box.

another thing LXDE has that #! does not is a DE (or desktop environment). i really though i would miss a "desktop" with icons and crap. but i have realized that's all visual "fluff". i fell like my file system is much more organized now that i have to decide where to put files (as opposed to just dropping them on the desktop).

in the past year i have installed tons of new apps, and uninstalled half of them. when i use an app for a while i add it to the menu, otherwise i just uninstall it. also, i have my own organization scheme, and auto-updating menu would be making those decisions for me, which is not what i'm looking for.

i have recently switched my WM (window manager) from openbox to awesome. and i'm really happy with it. i still use many of the components from #! (the xfce volume + wifi controls, dmenu, nitrogen, thunar, etc, etc). the minimal nature of #! makes tweaking the system very simple. and when you switch from one app to another, you can just uninstall the old and move on with the new.

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#50 2014-02-07 01:32:34

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