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#1 2012-09-22 17:40:24

walterbyrd
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Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

Is Crunchbang just Debian, with openbox, and some apps pre-installed?

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#2 2012-09-22 17:49:41

dura
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

No. It's a lot, lot more (intangibly...).

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#3 2012-09-22 18:45:01

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#4 2012-09-23 01:13:43

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

Philip does recompile the Murrine gtk theme and some libraries, mostly for cosmetics; he also tweaked font rendering (in Waldorf anyway) so it looks closer to Ubuntu than Debian, but other than that and a few custom configs, it's almost-pure Debian.  To me, these differences are like the juniper berry flavor in gin. cool

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#5 2012-09-23 03:30:10

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

So the basic difference from "pure" Debian is the extra CrunchBang repositories which hold the recompiled and tweaked packages that pvsage mentioned.

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#6 2012-09-23 05:18:17

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

From my experience. I am not an expert on Linux, I am not a power user. I don't need to use the latest software, I don't have the most expensive laptop. What I looking for is a stable and reliable operative system, easy to keep up to date, and easy to install and configure.

I love Debian, it has been my distro for several years, but I always had to fix issues related with my wireless card and also my graphics settings. CrunchBang is now my first choice because it offers me the same superb quality of Debian... but everything works out of the box from the beginning.

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#7 2012-09-23 08:29:27

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?


brother mouse
new to crunchbang.
my first linux kernel build was on a 386-16sx with 6MB SIPP RAM ($50/MB!)

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#8 2012-09-23 08:31:07

Iranon
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

In a way I'd prefer if projects like Crunchbang didn't exist as their own distro,  a script to crunchify a fresh Debian install seems a cleaner way to do it.
The only problem I see is for people who need wireless connectivity out of the box (Debian isn't going to provide proprietary drivers and firmware).


LEGO won't be ready for the average user until it comes pre-assembled, in a single  unified look, and glued together so it doesn't come apart.

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#9 2012-09-23 15:37:52

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#10 2012-09-23 18:29:08

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#11 2013-07-07 05:40:51

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

With Crunchbang all worked out of the box.  I have an older laptop and the wireless worked just fine.   Even when I had Linux Mint installed on this laptop, I had to search around for the correct drivers for the laptop.  Also the community is very very helpful.

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#12 2013-07-07 12:31:14

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#13 2013-07-07 15:23:45

antiv0rtex
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

^ This made my day... smile

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#14 2013-07-07 15:42:56

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

More like an RV is just a truck with some extras preinstalled, but that's semantics.

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#15 2013-07-07 16:24:50

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#16 2013-07-07 17:05:07

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#17 2013-07-07 17:23:10

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

Last edited by pvsage (2013-07-08 09:53:04)

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#18 2013-07-07 17:30:21

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#19 2013-07-08 12:24:59

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?


- apt-mark hold account

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#20 2013-07-08 12:32:43

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

^ Politics.  There's a strong political undercurrent at Debian that seems to think everyone should in their idealized world where all hardware is supported by entirely FOSS software.  It doesn't help that the more pragmatist developers at Debian seem to wonder what the point is in developing a FOSS driver when the hardware manufacturer is willing to provide a perfectly adequate binary blob.

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#21 2013-07-08 19:31:11

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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#22 2013-07-08 19:52:29

schwim
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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#23 2013-07-08 20:53:57

pvsage
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

@KrunchTime & schwim:  ATi/AMD video drivers are one particular hot-button issue in these politics, with strong, valid arguments coming from both sides of the trenches.

...but back on-topic:  Yes, I believe CrunchBang to be better than Debian + Openbox, due to the (admittedly minor) tweaks corenominal brought to the party.

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#24 2013-07-09 18:57:03

hhh
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

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Be excellent to each other!

#25 2013-07-09 20:34:14

ew
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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?


- apt-mark hold account

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