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#2201 2013-03-30 00:49:17

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#2202 2013-03-30 05:42:26

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#2203 2013-03-30 07:12:44

DebianJoe
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I generally run Squeeze for most of my programming needs...and you really can't argue against the stability there.  Dear Lord, it's old as dirt though.  Although, so far, the only things that have broken on Arch are things that I broke (bad syntax in .xinitrc for example,) but certainly nothing that was unrecoverable.  After my first boot I set up my wireless, made a new user, and immediately started messing with how it works.  I can't help myself.  I honestly think pretty highly of it for now.  We'll see how I feel after a few months of regular use.

As far as Ubuntu's stability is concerned....people use Ubuntu at work?  I thought that it was designed as baby's first gnu/linux so that those coming from M$ or Mac could get more comfortable.  Slap KDE on it, and it is probably the smoothest way to help make the transition.  My little girl (8-years old) uses Xubuntu on the laptop that she does homework and watches movies on, but I think that's the only *buntu I have anywhere.  I felt like it would be a nice way to introduce her to the world of GNU/Linux without her feeling overwhelmed...or eventually going back to school being like, "You plebeians should be running Gentoo." wink

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#2204 2013-03-30 16:53:18

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

El K on Arch, the world is moving fast. And what a transformation of arguments. big_smile

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#2205 2013-03-31 02:28:02

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#2206 2013-03-31 02:33:32

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#2207 2013-03-31 05:14:31

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

The only instability I've ever had in arch, gentoo stable with mixed testing, and freebsd was my tinkering.  Debian and fedora broke sometimes.   angel


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#2208 2013-03-31 05:14:48

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Just returned to Crunchbang Waldorf after a meander through Fedora land... Its good to be home.  I'm sure it would've been fine but there were just some differences in configurations that I couldn't get my head around easily.  I've gone and learned things the Debian/#! way...

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#2209 2013-03-31 05:15:34

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I run Mac and some Ubuntu VM these days.  Yea I'm Satan.


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#2210 2013-03-31 06:38:34

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Registered: 2012-09-06
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Since a couple days ago, I've been running Crunchbang in a fullscreen VM on Windows 7. Does that make me a bad person? ops I was rebooting all the time to play video games (I'd stick to steam on Linux if I had an nvidia card, but I have two AMD cards in crossfire...), so I might as well just run CB in a VM and avoid the reboots and terrible video card fan profiles. hmm On the plus side, I have access to VirtualBox's snapshotting and cloning features. All my media is stored on a computer I use as a NAS, so between that and Dropbox, accessing my music and files and such is easy from any computer/VM. One of these days I'd like to reverse things by using VGA passthrough in KVM to a Windows VM (or just game entirely on Linux but for that I'd like to have an nvidia card). We'll see...

My NAS computer is running Linux Mint XFCE (overkill, it used to be headless but I may end up using it as a workstation of sorts in the near future). It's running ZFSonLinux, samba, and Folding@Home currently.


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crunchbox:     Phenom II X6 1055T | 8GB RAM | OCZ Vertex 4 128GB | Radeon 7870XT | Win7 / #! 11 (i3 WM)
lambdacore:     4x Opteron 8431 | 16GB RAM | 2x1TB mirrored (ZFSoL) | Debian 7 (headless)
crunchtop:     Acer Aspire 1410 11.6" | 2GB RAM | Crucial M4 128GB | #! 11 (i3 WM)

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#2211 2013-03-31 08:19:14

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From: Todd's Gang
Registered: 2012-10-19
Posts: 221

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Bridge Linux is a nice rolling spin of Archbang in XFCE.

The installer is a change of pace, but very easy and straightforward. It's a little easier (on the eyes) to set your partitions up ahead of time with GParted, but not necessary.

Package management is via pacman or packer. yaourt-gui (graphical frontend for pacman) available in the repo and works wonderfully. Once you quickly familiarize yourself with pacman/packer/yaourt-gui management, it performs equally as admirably as apt/synaptic. GPG signed packages, and you also have the AUR repo available for an "almost" infinite selection of user packages.

Includes a read-me file for initial setup, then a first start boot script (very similar to #!).

Quick boots/shutdown, lean and the snappy performance of Arch.

There's also a friendly forum like #! as well as the Arch wiki.

There's never a replacement for #! angel...but if your searching out an out-of-the-box XFCE spin with a twist, you might enjoy the test drive.

cool

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#2212 2013-03-31 10:39:54

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#2213 2013-03-31 12:18:03

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#2214 2013-03-31 12:43:52

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ew: my wifi works out the box on Arch, on a few machines, and wifi-menu makes it easier to set up during installation or post-installation.

You don't seem to understand that if Debian came with non-freeware prepackaged for wifi it would cease to be Debian and become Ubuntu or something. Your posts often express your desire to have everything ready to go- but this negates the necessary differences between approaches and that Debian will always be less ready to go than Ubuntu or a derivative downstream.

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#2215 2013-03-31 12:44:08

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#2216 2013-03-31 12:51:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Then they can just use a derivative of Devian that has proprietary prepackaged.

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#2217 2013-03-31 16:57:35

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Registered: 2012-10-25
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Re Xubuntu and Debian Xfce: Distrowatch did some benchmarking a couple of years back and their conclusion was that Debian Xfce performed better.

"Old" distros are underrated. This is being written from a crunking old 32-bit laptop running CentOS 6.4 Xfce (via EPEL) and I have NetBeans 7.3 i.e. the latest version.

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#2218 2013-03-31 17:20:22

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#2219 2013-03-31 17:23:04

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#2220 2013-03-31 17:24:45

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Why is Debian always mentioned in the same breath as Arch? Admittedly, the general political views of both groups are likely to be somewhat similar but the level of complexity and the number of available packages for the two systems are totally different.

I could set up Debian for my dog but I know with Arch he'd break something sooner or later. You know what dogs are like.

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#2221 2013-03-31 18:18:13

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

@Ivanovnegro

I run OB/Tint2 on Debian Squeeze.  I actually don't have #! currently installed on anything, but having used it previously, what works for me will work for pretty much anyone on Statler.  I'm here for the free cookies and coffee every Tuesday. wink

I mention Arch with Debian because they're the 2 distros that I am currently using on different systems.

EDIT:  Seriously, I'm here because I enjoy the community as a whole.  I tried #!, and it was critical in some of my choices for how I currently run Debby.  I would probably have not given tint2 the same love if I didn't have the experience that crunchbang gave me.  Please don't mistake my ramblings for knocking crunchbang.  Many people would never know about the beauty of a lean system if not for these little variations.  Perhaps I just answered my own rant. hmm

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#2222 2013-03-31 18:56:43

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#2223 2013-03-31 19:10:41

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#2224 2013-03-31 20:05:41

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#2225 2013-03-31 20:10:10

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Anybody hopping at all here or is it just a rant thread now?

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