I have a little deal with my neighbour to use his wireless.
unfortunately it's not secured at all, also he is not a computer person, so i cant really discuss the matter with him.
i wouldn't like the idea that he or whoever set up his network would be able to read my emails. or anybody else.
can i apply encryption from my side ony?
edit: i tried some searches, but everything deals with the security of the owner of the network/router.
like, obviously, if i was my neighbor i would set up encryption.
Last edited by ohnonot (2013-01-07 06:57:12)
Your email should be encrypted anyway through ssl (https) so even if you are on an insecure network they are "secure".
Why can't you just go round and put a password on his wifi?
You can find the default password to most routers really easy- just search for your router name + default password. It's usually something like admin, or just blank. Then you can open it to set up a wifi password.
Others may know some easier/harder/better way
I don't know what you actually mean about setting up encyption- you just mean a password, rather than some ssh or vpn, or something else I don't know about (in my very finite wisdom)?
Anytime you use a network- at school, work, hotel, etc., it is essentially insecure in the sense you are suggesting right?
Last edited by dura (2012-11-02 22:33:57)
no, my wisdom on these things is definitely more finite!
i've been using mobile broadband for years and always get very confused when people start talking about routers.
i was just wondering if it was possible to encrypt my own data flow, but now i think about it more, i guess that always requires some agreement on both sides.
and no, i really can't talk to that guy. he's 80 years old and his head would probably explode if i'd try to explain it to him.
but i'm really plenty ignorant myself and open to suggestions, duh.
ps: the email was just an example. generally wouldn't want anyone peeping in on my dataflow.
Last edited by ohnonot (2012-11-02 22:55:23)
it's probably set to be ' open' so the 80 yo can use wi-fi without his head exploding.
if i had to type my password out every time - mine would.
if you felt you really needed to i'm sure you could just tell him it was broken and you knew how to fix it?
are you in a closely populated area? out here in the sticks i'm happy to have everything open...
If you know what brand of router, you should be able to access the settings remotely using its local IP address...it's usually something like 192.168.1.1, 192.168.2.1, etc. Probably best to get the owner's permission first though.
If he's not using any wireless you could offer to secure it for him so that no scoundrels download anything illegal and the cops come looking for him
I think to actually access the router from the network you should type 'my ip' into the search engine of your choice
It will give you your public ip address
Copy and paste that into your url bar, and it should bring up the router he has. Then you can find out the router password really easy, through portford.com or any number of similar sites. You want the admin username and admin password- its usually just admin for username, and blank for password or something
Then go to wifi settings and set up a password. All this does is create a secure connection, so others cant steal his wifi the same way you do, and sniff your packets so easily.
Proxy tunnelling, or reverse proxy whatever to his machine could be a solution....
Last edited by dura (2012-11-03 00:41:50)
yay I just set up proxy to my raspberry pi using the link schwim gave
^...I thought that it was generally possible within the local network
Last edited by dura (2012-11-03 00:58:41)
All the setups I've seen disabled within the intranet through wireless. This keeps someone from pulling up to your curb and locking you out of your own router if you've neglected to change the default password.
Every single one of you has failed to realise that regardless of how you secretly apply a password to the old guys router once it's done none of his machines/devices will be able to get online. The only way to do this and not have that happen is to speak to the old guy and explain much like his front door his internet connection requires a lock on it and would he be happy for you to do it.
Don't wory about lacking experience. Once you know what router he has you can find ahowto guide online I'm sure.
pay the bills with Windows, obssesed with Linux, studying CCNA when I can fit it in.
similar ideas came up and some other good ones. But you could use SSH as your proxy.
ssh -D 1234 -C user@hostname where 1234 is an arbitrary port number
then in your browser network settings set the proxy up to use localhost and enter in your port number.
@Becker i did try and say that.
But you said it better.
and this thread has given some great info in the mean time.
Last edited by wuxmedia (2012-11-03 08:21:48)
Last edited by dura (2012-11-10 11:28:24)
ohno, that error is usually caused by something stopping your device from being pingable, whether it's a router, software firewall, ISP has you NAT'ed, etc. If you can ping your devices WAN IP successfully, then I'm not sure what would be causing the problem.
I would guess that mobile broadband would use a NAT style system, which might be causing your problem.
hello, thanks schwim.
i understood your first sentence.
i've noticed before that it seems that mobile broadband often puts more restrictions on their users.
- how can i "ping my devices WAN IP"?
- i looked up NAT in wikipedia, how can i know if this applies in my case?
generally, to others, just asking:
what's the story with mobile broadband?
is it generally "worse" than "normal" internet connections?
what is possible, in terms of customizing my connection, what isn't?
ps: sliding off topic...
pps: maybe i should start looking for a more general networking tutorial?
Last edited by ohnonot (2013-01-08 07:09:15)
What's your provider? I'll try to see if they allow direct connections to your router.
It's not just mobile providers that restrict this type of thing. I'm nat'ed on a fiber connection. Often, it's done to keep people like me from running resource intensive things like FTP servers out of their home. If you can't be found, you can't do a whole lot