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#76 2012-08-09 19:35:02

omns
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

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Be excellent to each other!

#77 2012-08-09 19:39:46

AnInkedSoul
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

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#78 2012-08-09 19:41:10

omns
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#79 2012-08-09 20:01:11

Iranon
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

Mind you, I don't actually like any of them very much. I prefer a configurable window manager because I'm the ultimate authority on how things should look and work, everyone who disagrees is not me and therefore wrong (and possibly an idiot) smile

The Gnomes apparently put a lot of effort into touchy-feely things. Down with buttons and clicks, because those feel like operating scary and impersonal machinery... or something. Many dragging actions and sweeping mouse movements instead, because that supposedly feels more satisfying and intuitive. One hot corner for all major actions, but instead of placing things efficiently place them so it's very hard to do something by mistake. Gentle restraining of users who do something they may not really want to do (like open multiple windows of the same application by mistake). Even the default visuals convey that everything has been made safe and easy.
The other DEs don't feel nearly as professionally done from a user experience point of view, I can appreciate this even if I disagree with most things they did.

Maybe sophistication didn't fit KDE... what's  a better word for "the quality of being over-engineered"? It seems to be developed by people with a deep love for needlessly powerful solutions to mundane problems and a slight fetish for checkboxes, control panels, jumping dancing notifications, and busybody services reminding you something is happening even when it isn't.
I hope they have fun, because if movies tell me anything they'd otherwise build elaborate underground lairs and plot world domination via killer penguins with fricking laser beams.

E17 seems an experiment how much eye candy and fun features you can cram into this weight class. This is apparently more important than working as a serious productivity tool, and occasionally at all. At the same time, it's using a lot of technology unique to it... so pretty much the opposite impression of XFCE.


LEGO won't be ready for the average user until it comes pre-assembled, in a single  unified look, and glued together so it doesn't come apart.

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#80 2012-08-09 20:34:02

AnInkedSoul
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#81 2012-08-09 20:34:46

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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

@omns

TY smile

Anyway el_koraco might said his point a bit "aggressive" but it still stands. I will try to write proper english from now on.

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#82 2012-08-09 21:13:23

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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

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#83 2012-08-09 21:59:29

vlahonick
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

No point on keep posting about this. the post was created for something else. And don't twist my words,
I said your point stands, not that I liked the way you pointed out. You could send me a private message
but this is not about I made this post...

Please from now own post comments only relative to the post. Continuing this discussion will end up with nothing.

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#84 2012-08-09 22:39:04

rstrcogburn
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

This is a really good idea.


Pack em in snow!

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#85 2012-11-09 12:38:10

dura
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

Apparently the rumor that debian was changing default DE to xfce was just that- a rumor. Had a look at the debian site the other site, and disc number one still comes with gnome, there also being other discs available, with xfce, and I think lxde. It was also suggested that debian doesn't have a default DE- it's default is a bare bones system without a DE at all.

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#86 2012-11-09 15:24:14

snowpine
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

I installed Wheezy last week, and Gnome 3 is the default desktop environment on DVD 1. (and the installer prompts if you want to choose a different DE)

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#87 2012-11-09 17:32:04

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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

I must comply, Debian has made a wise decision!! XFCE has a bright future due to his light-desktop enviroment, the perfect choice for all standar users. Sadly for GNOME, it has taken a wrong direction of creation such a heavy-bloated desktop where even a minimal resource PC can't see to run properly.


Humans are source codes compiled in many programming languages, and all our hearts beats only 1's & 0's

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#88 2012-11-09 17:35:03

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#89 2012-11-09 17:49:40

VastOne
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

^ I sure would like to get the same results you are seeing from Gnome 3.  On every platform I have run it on the performance was extremely poor.  Equal in speed to #!, in what ways, what parameters?

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#90 2012-11-09 17:53:51

snowpine
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

The biggest improvement I notice is browsing; scrolling through pages and flipping from tab to tab is faster now.

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#91 2012-11-09 18:02:43

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#92 2012-11-09 18:05:23

VastOne
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

^ From what I understand, it was mis reported by just about every tech rag out there without any type of retraction at all.  It seems Debian did something similar to what corenominal did in asking a question that became some peoples reality.

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#93 2012-11-09 19:31:16

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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

Why is/would debian even make certain DE default? (My impression was they are all stock defaults)

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#94 2012-11-09 20:11:25

VastOne
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

^ That is how I look at it also.

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#95 2012-11-09 20:19:04

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#96 2012-11-10 00:29:32

smoki
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

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#97 2012-11-10 05:28:58

smoki
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

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#98 2012-11-10 12:05:09

hashbanger
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Registered: 2011-11-28
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

Debian should just use Openbox as the default.  cool

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#99 2012-11-11 04:19:13

smoki
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Re: Debian Changes Default Desktop From GNOME To XFCE

Yeah cool . task-cb-desktop would be cool angel .

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