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#1 2010-04-17 12:02:22

luvva_cuppa
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Registered: 2009-09-06
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Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

I am very happy with the latest !#cb which in my case is the openbox version. Just one thing which I wonder others may have experienced. It seems to me that compared to 9.04 running firefox 3.5, Iceweasel seems to take forever to open webpages. I have a download speed which varies from 3 - 7 mb so it isn't my connection which is slow.  I have also changed the no.of pages in the history in order to speed up the browser but it still seems to be very slow. Has anyone else noticed this issue?

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#2 2010-04-17 14:17:42

jpope
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Registered: 2009-09-20
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#3 2010-04-17 15:08:15

rich
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From: barcelona
Registered: 2009-01-26
Posts: 416
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

I'm actually surprised that Iceweasel on Statler is rapid for me. I have had FF/IW problems regarding Flash/Xulrunner for years.

A lot of factors should be taken into account. Your ISP's DNS servers are a big one, something I have problems with using Vodafone Spain. Next up are the sites you visit, amount of users and what server they are hosted on. Then you need to look at your own hardware and drivers. Direct cable to router is usually ok whereas wireless drivers (especially non-free) can also cause problems. I also disable IpV6.

As I said, a lot of factors depending on individual hardware and use.

Incidentally, I am a big Youtube user and FF always played up on Flash. I now use Chrome with the beta Html5 version of Youtube.

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#4 2010-04-17 16:45:44

luvva_cuppa
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

I am currently viewing this forum with Slitaz 2.0 both on Firefox and Opera. I wanted to check response times when loading pages compared to Firefox with Statler. There is definitely an issue here. The pages load screamingly fast with Opera and pretty fast with Firefox. They take forever on my Statler set up. Umm! Food for thought. I think I will dowload another browser or two to Statler to compare response.

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#5 2010-04-17 16:51:38

FiniteStateMachine
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 2009-06-29
Posts: 1,489

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Try opera, standard firefox, chrome, whatever you like on Statler as well, see if the issue is Iceweasel on Statler, or any browser on statler.

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#6 2010-04-17 17:34:00

Vicophine
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From: Detroit, MI
Registered: 2009-11-02
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Iceweasel was a bit too resource heavy for my Pentium III M CPU, but Kazehakase us blazing fast!

In a pinch, use elinks tongue

Here is a list of some more lightweight browsers: Uzbl, Midori, Arora, w3m, Lynx, Kazehakase.


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#7 2010-04-17 17:47:27

rich
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

I also built a Squeeze based distro, and webkit based browsers used to cough up a few fur balls here an there. Notably Arora and Midori. But I think that's just a Debian issue.

Currently using Swiftfox, and it is blazing, even on Youtube.

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#8 2010-04-17 17:52:49

Toolz
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From: Asia
Registered: 2009-02-02
Posts: 937

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Iceweasel might have been slow on startup. Not sure about page loads, I can't compare as I don't have blazing-fast internet.

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#9 2010-04-17 19:46:56

omns
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Registered: 2008-11-25
Posts: 5,131

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

ipv6 is not disabled by default in Statler's iceweasel. After disabling it I've have no page loading issues smile

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#10 2010-04-17 22:04:06

rich
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#11 2010-04-18 23:21:42

luvva_cuppa
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Registered: 2009-09-06
Posts: 214

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Iceweasel is as sluggish as hell, in fact. New tabs take an average of 5 to 8 seconds before loading the page. This is not a very satisfying experience.

Opera is faster but has problems with my proxy server which I use for watching the iplayer.

Tried downloading the Epiphany browser from the repos but that returns two 404s. Midori I know for a fact is unstable and can't handle flash.

I have also failed to get firefox-3.6.3 to work. Downloaded and untarred it but it won't work.

Not a very successful Sunday. Am contemplating returning to !#cb 9.04.

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#12 2010-04-19 00:39:22

grndplane
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From: SoCal
Registered: 2010-04-05
Posts: 13

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Ive been using Opera 10.10 with no issues, plus it gives me mail, chat, bit torrent' rss and a few other things. Make sure you set clear cookies on exit in whatever browser you use.

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#13 2010-04-19 00:53:33

chillicampari
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Registered: 2009-10-09
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#14 2010-04-19 07:14:46

Jdemnahouby
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From: France, but living in Prague
Registered: 2009-04-13
Posts: 222

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#15 2010-04-19 23:41:27

luvva_cuppa
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2009-09-06
Posts: 214

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. I have been on the Debian forum and Iceweasel seems to have a reputation as being slow. I am making use of Opera for the moment until I have the time to sort out either Swiftfox or Firefox. Feels like these are the usual Linux hoops to jump through to get something running, which I suppose is the fun of it.

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#16 2010-04-23 23:20:51

luvva_cuppa
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Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#17 2010-05-30 07:59:19

mzsade
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Registered: 2009-09-27
Posts: 276

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Hi, My ISP requires that i open their login page and enter my user id and password after every boot before i am connected, even though i am supposed to have an always on unlimited downloads connection. That's a shame really because i can't set my weather conky to open on start-up. But i am digressing, the point is, after i set my  browser home  as this login page, iceweasel opens two tabs simultaneously, one is my home page and the other the default #! page, which doesn't open anyway, because i am not logged in then, and which is redirected to the ISP login page. This slows down the browser start-up considerably. Is there any change that i can make to my profile.ini to open only one tab when i open iceweasel?
You may well ask, why don't i leave the default as the home page as it will be redirected to the login page regardless. Redirection takes more time.

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#18 2010-05-30 13:12:40

anonymous
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From: Arch Linux Forums
Registered: 2008-11-29
Posts: 9,419

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Go to Iceweasel > Edit > Preferences and make sure there is only one site is specified for the home page. And make sure Iceweasel is set to open your homepage instead of "Show my windows and tabs from last time".

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#19 2010-05-30 14:45:23

mzsade
#! Junkie
Registered: 2009-09-27
Posts: 276

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

OMbog! I had no idea that you could specify more than one site as your home page. Never thought to scroll the home page line. Thank you. big_smile

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#20 2010-05-31 04:16:35

trickyhero
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Registered: 2010-05-30
Posts: 11

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

For me Firefox has always been slow and to heavy. (Why is it default?:/ ) I usaully use Arora or Google Chrome.;)

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#21 2010-05-31 18:12:56

cain
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Registered: 2009-03-28
Posts: 55

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

+1 ^ To this guy, I think firefox has gotten slow.  I think I have tried the browser described one time and it ran extremely slow on flash based pages such as youtube.  Furthermore, I noticed when opening a new tab from a site that has video/music playing, it just seemed to be excruciatingly slow.  Perhaps its related to that.

I highly recommend using Google Chrome (or Chromium for linux?) I swear by it that it is the fastest brower out there, uses the least amount of CPU, but does tend to be a bit high in memory usage.  As long as you get addblocker and flashblocker from the extensions/plugins page you can't go wrong with Chrome.

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#22 2010-06-02 04:08:28

christpunk01
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Registered: 2010-05-27
Posts: 11

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Could try changing your DNS. I don't where the hang up is for me but all my newer Linux distros don't wanna talk to my ISP's DNS so I use OpenDNS and they are flying now. Just a thought.

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#23 2010-06-02 04:14:22

ali
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2010-05-31
Posts: 1,035

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

i use chrome because firefox never did it for me, it takes way too much space (on my screen), chrome is like minimal in display usage

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#24 2010-06-03 00:21:08

charlie01
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Registered: 2009-02-09
Posts: 556

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

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#25 2010-06-03 01:23:55

mzsade
#! Junkie
Registered: 2009-09-27
Posts: 276

Re: Iceweasel 's apparent sluggishness

Don't claim to know much about these things, but i am inclined to be a bit cynical of the view that a browser can actually improve upon the speed limits set by your ISP. WRT to Chrome, i found that the download speeds were lower than those on Firefox, also it didn't remember passwords after every other session.
Another point of interest, I personally know many Windows users who cringe at the very mention of anything open source, and yet go gaga over Firefox and will never use IE. What's that about? A very gullible lot, they have been told that it's faster and then auto-suggestion takes over. roll

Edit: Just installed google-chrome 5.0 stable version, gladly admit that i was wrong, it is indeed faster when shifting between links. Remembering passwords is still a problem.
Edit: Well, what do you know! Even that seems to have been taken care of. cool

Last edited by mzsade (2010-06-03 19:57:33)

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