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#1 2015-06-17 23:02:35

hhh
Cityspeak
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 3,253

Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

There is too much OT opinion wining, whinging and ranting. It just goes on and on, with everyone and their mother joining in. Cut it out! Make your point! Ignore idiotic posts! Don't feed the trolls! Shut up already! You don't need to respond to EVERY DAMN POST, do you?

My posts are getting increasingly hostile, which is saying a lot since I've been guilty of some pretty extreme hostility in the past. It's because the stupid, it hurts. I'm pleading here from some restraint, especially from those who have been here awhile and should really know better.

My apologies if I am the pot calling the kettle black.

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#2 2015-06-18 00:10:51

Sector11
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From: SR11 Cockpit
Registered: 2010-05-05
Posts: 15,667
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Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

^ actually I tend to agree with you.

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#3 2015-06-18 02:07:42

porkpiehat
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-10-02
Posts: 1,007

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

Yes. Calm the F down people. Go outside, take a look around and think about what really matters (hint -- it's not whether someone has built a Linux spinoff you might not like).

Last edited by porkpiehat (2015-06-18 02:10:14)

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#4 2015-06-18 06:13:31

vrkalak
#! Die Hard
From: Las Vegas > US
Registered: 2009-09-14
Posts: 1,647

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

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#5 2015-06-18 14:54:33

CSCoder4ever
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From: /dev/zero
Registered: 2013-09-03
Posts: 2,256

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

^ Haswell and Devil's Canyon came, so yup

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#6 2015-06-18 16:03:12

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,984

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

**Group Hug**

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#7 2015-06-18 16:12:19

Colossal_Crunch
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2015-05-06
Posts: 154

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

Wouldn't creating a thread for everyone to complain about other's "bickering" be a little ironic?   devil

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#8 2015-06-18 16:20:19

Unia
#! Octo-portal-pussy
From: The Netherlands
Registered: 2010-07-17
Posts: 4,634
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Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

I would say in this case it's justified wink

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#9 2015-06-19 02:19:22

apprentice
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From: 43°42′N - 79°23′W
Registered: 2012-02-04
Posts: 96

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

Last edited by Sector11 (2015-06-19 02:51:11)


So come up to the lab...
And see what's on the slab

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#10 2015-06-19 18:22:56

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,412

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

What's all this about? Have I missed something?

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#11 2015-06-19 18:44:41

Head_on_a_Stick
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From: A world of pure imagination
Registered: 2014-01-21
Posts: 4,797

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

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#12 2015-06-19 19:22:39

intoCB
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Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,412

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

LOL. I use vanilla Debian now, according to the dying wishes of our favorite distribution. All you Openbox continuationists are just heretics. Death to Bunsen Labs, CrunchBangPlusPlus and Monara. Long live Debian or #!'s true spiritual successor Windows (Corenominal's current system).

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#13 2015-06-19 19:24:57

hhh
Cityspeak
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 3,253

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

^That's one example, just look in some of the support threads and BL threads for others. I have no problem with the Off Topic threads going wherever they may, but to see so many of the other threads get derailed with side issues and arguments... enough, please.

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#14 2015-06-19 20:19:00

pvsage
Internal Affairs
From: North Carolina
Registered: 2009-10-18
Posts: 13,970

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

^ Agreed.

@intoCB:  You're definitely not the only one using "vanilla" Debian here.  Mine is a very slightly modified LXDE with a handful of CrunchBang-like keyboard shortcuts in ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml.

@unia:  I didn't want to post this in the closed thread about Monara's Live ISO, but I noticed you used a certain compound noun in your closing post there.  I learned the hard way a few years ago that we mods need to be a little careful about using words that come from the *chan boards.

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#15 2015-06-19 21:59:58

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

no give response because i just read this old post header post

Last edited by userx-bw (2015-06-19 22:00:52)


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? ops
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  monkey
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#16 2015-06-19 23:07:04

pvsage
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2009-10-18
Posts: 13,970

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

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#17 2015-06-20 02:09:52

spacex
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From: Norway
Registered: 2015-01-17
Posts: 385
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Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

My 2 cents. With the approach from plusplus, monara and others, wouldn't it be a good idea to either make this community mainly a Bunsen-community, or at the very least create a special section where people are allowed to present their projects, whatever they are. Because it's not good to have talk about monara, ++ or others in the Bunsen section, or wherever else it pops up.

The mods say that people are allowed to present their distros and projects, but at the same time there is no appropriate section for it. So it's pretty much random where an aspiring dev ends up making a post about his/hers distro...

I feel that this community-forum no longer are structured for the new situation. Do we want to become some kind of linuxquestions.org where different distros has their own sections, or are we going to be a bunsen-forum? It's the in between that causes the problem.

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#18 2015-06-20 02:16:17

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

Last edited by userx-bw (2015-06-20 02:18:56)


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? ops
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  monkey
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#19 2015-06-20 02:35:55

CaptainIndifferent
#! CrunchBanger
From: The Vale of Si
Registered: 2012-05-05
Posts: 202

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!


Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

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#20 2015-06-20 02:56:23

tknomanzr
#! Die Hard
From: Heavener, OK
Registered: 2014-12-09
Posts: 777

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

How about a stickied, mod only editable post that shows current development status? I have been thinking that a lot of people are not truly understanding the purpose of the netinstall script and why we are testing it. Those who just came into this might not be understanding that an attempt is being made to create a BunsenLabs metapackage that installs everything via depends, recommends, etc.

The netinstall script is an important step in that journey and we really need to know that things work before we go tossing iso's out into the wild. Anyway, mods may understand it all a bit more than me. I just know it is a bit more involved than just tossing the stuff into the proper folders in Live Build and building the iso (as I did) as there is a serious attempt being made to do things the proper Debian way.

I am the last person to feel threatened by somebody else tossing together an iso as I have alread done it for my own purposes and that iso reflects my tastes a bit more. That being said, I fully support the BunsenLabs effort and have since the beginning. Anybody with the time and willpower can learn to do a Live Build. A community, however, is not something that can be built overnight. I never released my iso to the public, because the truth is, I don't want to have to support it. I would rather see the support efforts go to BunsenLabs itself.

Anyway, perhaps if we had an official announcement clarifying the BunsenLabs stance and current progress, it might help to dispel some of the confusion.

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#21 2015-06-20 12:57:30

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

^ yes I agree that BunsenLabs needs to sticky their netinstall with just one page of what it is about and where to get it and how to install in with no area for anyone to post anything else on it, but them that put it there.


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? ops
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  monkey
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#22 2015-06-20 20:17:47

Wrobat
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2010-10-10
Posts: 120

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

i am a long time reader and occasional poster, if I had the time and ambition I  would help the cause but I don't.  This is the direction I have been waiting for BunsenLabs to take and I am surprised I haven't seen it yet. I will follow wherever BunsenLabs goes I just hope I doesn't trip and fall too many times.

Thank you for all your hard work for the project, I thoroughly enjoy it.


Windows free since Crunchbang 8.10!

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#23 2015-06-20 22:31:29

KrunchTime
#! Die Hard
From: not where I belong
Registered: 2012-03-02
Posts: 3,264

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

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#24 2015-06-21 01:17:21

spacex
ew
From: Norway
Registered: 2015-01-17
Posts: 385
Website

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!

If I'm going to be frank enough to say what I really think should happen, then it probably would be something like this...

Make it the "BunsenLabs" community, but add a separate section for outside stuff. Do not allow someone to create a nick just to drop in and promote something.

Also, the Bunsen team should host the community and websites themselves, and free themselves from any ties to the past, and/or the former owners. Bunsen is more than good enough to stand on it's own two feet, without any association to CrunchBang whatsoever. The clean break is the best approach. Until the community-name changes, and the ties are broken, it is no clean break.

Just my opinion. I don't decide anything, so there is no need to make any kind of fuzz about my statement.

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#25 2015-06-21 02:13:44

Wrobat
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2010-10-10
Posts: 120

Re: Stop the anal retentive bickering, GAWD!!!


Windows free since Crunchbang 8.10!

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