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#1 2015-05-04 15:59:22

userx-bw
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different ways to spell words in english

I think the way they spell tire in English in England and other places is just silly 

tyre ---

The spelling tyre is used in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand after being revived in the 19th century. Both tyre and tire were used in the...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tyre


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#2 2015-05-04 16:05:53

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

some people never tire discussing things like that...

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#3 2015-05-04 16:08:03

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

I did try to open a bug report over on Arch for their use of "Color" in /etc/pacman.conf but it was marked "wontfix"...
8.(

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#4 2015-05-04 16:14:02

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

ohnonot wrote:

some people never tire discussing things like that...

goto https://english.stackexchange.com;

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#5 2015-05-04 16:55:24

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

It must be hurtful for you Brits that American English has gotten more popular and is taught in most schools nowadays. In my country, having "British English" is considered an "extra". I, for one, would feel very irritated if Flemish became what is considered "Dutch" ]:D

That said, it is confusing for me at times and I probably mix them up more often than I think I do.


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#6 2015-05-04 17:04:09

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Unia wrote:

It must be hurtful for you Brits that American English has gotten more popular and is taught in most schools nowadays.

Yup.

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#7 2015-05-04 17:46:19

Forthy
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Registered: 2012-01-16
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

There is no such thing as American English.

There is English, and there are mistakes.

- The Queen

(admittedly it was the queen's parody account on twitter, but still...)

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#8 2015-05-04 18:46:41

1002richards
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Unia wrote:

...  American English has gotten more popular and is taught in most schools nowadays .

I'm not sure where that idea comes from?
Both my teenage kids are in UK schools and American English is not taught. All work is set and expected in UK English.
Mrs.1002richards works in another UK school where no American English is taught either.
There have been numerous "fly on the wall" TV documentaries in UK schools (Britain's Biggest Primary school, Educating Yorkshire, Educating the East End etc) and no American English was taught or mentioned.

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#9 2015-05-04 18:59:01

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Gray and grey still confuse me and I am American  8.(

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#10 2015-05-04 19:00:05

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

I rather like the localisations/localizations.  A pet peeve is with American publishers who don't think us Yanks can comprehend works written in en_ZA (South African), en_GB (British), or en_AU (Australian) without translating spellings and local vocabulary.  For instance: bonnet/hood, boot/trunk, braai/barbeque/barbie, sorcerer/philosopher (Potter fans).  A good US dictionary still covers world spellings and vocabulary.

I am a Deon Meyer fan - he writes in Afrikaans.  His first US offerings were only those translated to en_ZA but later works are only en_US.  The later works have South African place names but feel estranged from local sensibilities by the American language choice.


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#11 2015-05-04 19:03:08

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

I'd have to agree with 1002richards here.

On one hand, it kinda figures that they're not gonna teach American English at an UK school. It'd be like the ultimate self given slap on the face, wouldn't it?  ]:D

But on the other hand, I was born and raised in Argentina, where they teach "English" as a second language in most schools (I say "most" because I learned English, French, Italian and German at school), so when I emigrated to the US back in 2000, I was confident I wasn't gonna have much problem with the language.
Boy, was I wrong!!! People would sound to me like they were talking with their mouths full.
Then I realized I had been taught British English.
American English is not taught in my country, nor on any other Spanish speaking country I know of.

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#12 2015-05-04 19:04:31

cpoakes
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

userx-bw wrote:

"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time"

Some seem to get away with butchering language...


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#13 2015-05-04 19:22:18

cpoakes
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:

...American English is not taught in my country, nor on any other Spanish speaking country I know of.

You will generally learn American English in Mexico (predictable with the shared border) and the English I heard in Costa Rica was American (presumably the influence of large American expat community and economic alignment with the US).


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#14 2015-05-04 19:54:00

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:

I was born and raised in Argentina, where they teach "English" as a second language in most schools

I am in America, when I went back to college to take a few courses as  I walked down the corridor / passage / hallway I passed a room that had a sign above it that said "English as a second language" I couldn't help but laugh then wonder what as my first language?


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#15 2015-05-04 20:00:52

Unia
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

1002richards wrote:
Unia wrote:

...  American English has gotten more popular and is taught in most schools nowadays .

I'm not sure where that idea comes from?
Both my teenage kids are in UK schools and American English is not taught. All work is set and expected in UK English.

That's probably because you are from the UK, while I am from The Netherlands wink


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#16 2015-05-04 20:05:36

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

cpoakes wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time"

Some seem to get away with butchering language...

Well ain't that great? Now I got a change my quote and add the butchering of a language is also legal? and Ain't Ain't even a word, or was not a word until ???

“The Story of Ain’t: America, Its Language, and the Most Controversial Dictionary Ever Published” by David Skinner

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertain … story.html


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"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#17 2015-05-04 23:24:33

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Thankfully, words like circle, stupid, inbred and redneck are still spelled the same both sides of the Atlantic, so as long as I have a universal way to bash nascar, it's all good.


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#18 2015-05-04 23:36:04

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:

I'd have to agree with 1002richards here.

On one hand, it kinda figures that they're not gonna teach American English at an UK school. It'd be like the ultimate self given slap on the face, wouldn't it?  ]:D

But on the other hand, I was born and raised in Argentina, where they teach "English" as a second language in most schools (I say "most" because I learned English, French, Italian and German at school), so when I emigrated to the US back in 2000, I was confident I wasn't gonna have much problem with the language.
Boy, was I wrong!!! People would sound to me like they were talking with their mouths full.
Then I realized I had been taught British English.
American English is not taught in my country, nor on any other Spanish speaking country I know of.

It would probably not be possible to teach it in any classroom because American English is highly mutable and rapidly evolves from one thing to the next. Then there's the whole local idiom thing which is different depending on which part of the US you find yourself in. That being said, the closest thing to "proper" American English is probably the English taught in American Universities. I would say high schools, however, too many people manage to graduate high school and barely qualify as what I would consider to be literate, i.e. able to write and speak proper English and convey complex ideas clearly enough that people can understand the message.

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#19 2015-05-05 00:52:35

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Re: different ways to spell words in english


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#20 2015-05-05 02:01:46

Inodoro Pereyra
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

tknomanzr wrote:

It would probably not be possible to teach it in any classroom because American English is highly mutable and rapidly evolves from one thing to the next. Then there's the whole local idiom thing which is different depending on which part of the US you find yourself in.

Well, most languages do. Modern (British) English is not the same as old English, same as modern Spanish is not the same as the old one.
And the same happens with local idioms. So you British say "Proper English" is (if I'm not mistaken) Oxford's.
However, one could argue that Welsh, for example, is just as British.
Same happens to Spanish: in reality, the official language of Spain is actually Castilian Spanish, which is the language spoken in Castille. But one might argue, for example, that Galician is just as Spanish (I mean, if everybody and their cat weren't trying to separate from Spain right now).

I think the main difference is not that, but actually the fact that Americans don't seem to have a clue what "Proper American English" really is... tongue

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#21 2015-05-05 06:30:24

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:

However, one could argue that Welsh, for example, is just as British.

http://www.wales.com/en/content/cms/eng … /language/
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#22 2015-05-05 10:54:04

photonucleon
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Biscuit scone cookie pancake flapjack. There's a bundle of transatlantic confusion right there. Though admittedly not related to spelling.


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#23 2015-05-05 11:04:40

Unia
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Re: different ways to spell words in english


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#24 2015-05-05 12:50:19

Inodoro Pereyra
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Re: different ways to spell words in english

]:D  ]:D  ]:D

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#25 2015-05-05 16:23:14

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Seriously though, everyone should spell like Guy Martin* talks

*HoaS is probably the only one here who gets this reference.


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