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#51 2014-01-27 19:44:04

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

I'll see what I can do when 14.04 releases.

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#52 2014-01-28 14:07:07

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

I'll see what I can do when 14.04 releases.

What do you mean by 12.04 won`t install? I got as far as to the network-detection part, but as I have a very tricky wifi, I need to connect myself with cable and have a new go at it. But if you say that it doesn`t work, then I guess it`s no point rigging me up with a cable from the basement. At what point did the install fail for you?


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#53 2014-01-28 14:23:55

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

ew wrote:
CSCoder4ever wrote:

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

I'll see what I can do when 14.04 releases.

What do you mean by 12.04 won`t install? I got as far as to the network-detection part, but as I have a very tricky wifi, I need to connect myself with cable and have a new go at it. But if you say that it doesn`t work, then I guess it`s no point rigging me up with a cable from the basement. At what point did the install fail for you?

it was after the network install, then everything just went blank.

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#54 2014-01-28 23:33:23

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

CSCoder4ever wrote:
ew wrote:
CSCoder4ever wrote:

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

I'll see what I can do when 14.04 releases.

What do you mean by 12.04 won`t install? I got as far as to the network-detection part, but as I have a very tricky wifi, I need to connect myself with cable and have a new go at it. But if you say that it doesn`t work, then I guess it`s no point rigging me up with a cable from the basement. At what point did the install fail for you?

it was after the network install, then everything just went blank.

OK. I guess I`ll have a go anyway and see what happens. Perhaps it didn`t approve of your hardware-configuration. Have you tried it on a different computer?

Perhaps you could try this as a base instead? http://madbox.tuxfamily.org/

It`s 32-bit ubuntu 12.04 base with openbox. Only 392 mb, so there can not be all that much that needs to be stripped away for your project. It should give you something to play with until 14.04 is here...

I haven`t tried the distro above, but someone told me that it was nice. I`ve downloaded it myself and will take it for a spin smile


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#55 2014-01-28 23:39:25

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

The mini iso for 13.04 installed fine for me. That's what I used for this: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 89#p356489

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#56 2014-01-29 05:17:59

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

porkpiehat wrote:
CSCoder4ever wrote:

I actually have been having troubles with all the mini ISOs, 13.10 won't boot properly, and 12.04 works but won't install, it's all a mess.

The mini iso for 13.04 installed fine for me. That's what I used for this: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 89#p356489

I've noticed, I'm guessing it's my hardware config.

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#57 2014-01-29 09:40:52

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

If you have boot problems with Ubuntu live images, just pull out your hard drives, then it is a smooth ride.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … ug/1241589


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#58 2014-01-29 12:24:51

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

vicshrike wrote:

If you have boot problems with Ubuntu live images, just pull out your hard drives, then it is a smooth ride.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … ug/1241589

Yes, but a mini.iso(30 MB) needs to be installed to a hard drive or a usb, as it`s not usable on it`s own, and the point with a iso like that is to install it.


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#59 2014-01-29 23:49:45

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Yeah, but is it not possible to plug in the hard drive after the mini iso is up and running?


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#60 2014-01-30 00:36:19

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

vicshrike wrote:

Yeah, but is it not possible to plug in the hard drive after the mini iso is up and running?

I`m not sure. It`s worth a try. Personally I have different issues. I get the iso to boot, but I cant connect to a network. Not even with cabled network. No interface is being put up... It just keeps asking for the missing firmware for my internal wifi-card, even when I`m cabled to my lan, and want eth0 to be put up.


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#61 2014-01-30 01:09:33

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

vicshrike wrote:

Yeah, but is it not possible to plug in the hard drive after the mini iso is up and running?

No, it is possible, as long as hot-swap or AHCI is enabled in the BIOS. but the machine I'm attempting to install ubuntu mini on does not have this ability.

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#62 2014-01-30 14:31:29

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I tried installing Madbox and trying to make it more CrunchBang-y (removing the what bits of LXDE are in it etc) but somehow managed to mess up the networking massively sad I might reinstall it and try again, but I'm not sure what I did wrong at this stage. Probably autoremove being overenthusiastic...


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#63 2014-01-30 21:43:35

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

photonucleon wrote:

I tried installing Madbox and trying to make it more CrunchBang-y (removing the what bits of LXDE are in it etc) but somehow managed to mess up the networking massively sad I might reinstall it and try again, but I'm not sure what I did wrong at this stage. Probably autoremove being overenthusiastic...

I have a better solution for you. Do it from Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 LTS

After you have installed the base, you get to choose "manual package selection". I did this yesterday, and now I have a Ubuntu base with xorg, openbox, tint2, lxappearance and wicd-gtk. Quite possibly I will make a installable ISO out of this base, so I can reuse it for later projects. Because this base gives me a minimal working desktop and wifi. So it`s much easier to start building from this point, than it is to do it from scratch. Because I will not lie, it was quite a struggle to get to this point big_smile

Pssst.... if you have problems with the ubuntu-iso`s from a usb-stick, try it from a cd/dvd instead, with no drives connected to the usb-ports...


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#64 2014-02-01 04:57:06

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

ew wrote:
photonucleon wrote:

I tried installing Madbox and trying to make it more CrunchBang-y (removing the what bits of LXDE are in it etc) but somehow managed to mess up the networking massively sad I might reinstall it and try again, but I'm not sure what I did wrong at this stage. Probably autoremove being overenthusiastic...

I have a better solution for you. Do it from Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 LTS

Ah ha! For some reason ubuntu server works for the system that ubuntu mini didn't... Just installed it and shall advance throughout the week (since College just started). I will do as much as I can tomorrow however!

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#65 2014-02-01 08:00:08

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Nice to see some progress being made.

Are you sure you want to use 12.04? That's older than Wheezy smile Wouldn't it defeat the object of catering to people who want more recent software? After all, Madbox is already based on 12.04.

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#66 2014-02-01 13:47:10

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

intoCB wrote:

Nice to see some progress being made.

Are you sure you want to use 12.04? That's older than Wheezy smile Wouldn't it defeat the object of catering to people who want more recent software? After all, Madbox is already based on 12.04.

It has to be 12.04 as it is supported until 2017, and it may be older than wheezy, but as Ubuntu isn`t as conservative as Debian, it still has newer software than Wheezy. As an example. Ubuntu 12.04 uses the 3.8 kernel, while Wheezy use 3.2....

No point in creating a distro from 13.10, as it`s only supported a few months more. But of course, the best is to wait for 14.04, and regard 12.04 as a training exercise smile


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#67 2014-02-01 13:56:17

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

^Ok - training exercise for a 14.04 final version.

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#68 2014-02-01 18:55:39

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/

This looks interesting...


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#69 2014-02-01 21:37:27

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

photonucleon wrote:

http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/

This looks interesting...

503 Service Temporarily Unavailable. That`s very interesting  big_smile


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#70 2014-02-01 22:47:43

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

ew wrote:
photonucleon wrote:

http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/

This looks interesting...

503 Service Temporarily Unavailable. That`s very interesting  big_smile

Oh. Anyway, it's not as interesting as I thought it'd be - I initially had the impression that it would be Ubuntu with a minimal GUI to which one could add specifically chosen packages; whereas in fact it is a live CD version of the mini iso...


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#71 2014-02-01 23:06:49

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I'm mostly just chaperoning this party, but...

After downloading Ubuntu Mini Remix you can use Ubuntu Customization Kit, Ubuntu Builder, Customizer or any other tool to remaster the ISO and add the software/configurations you want, building your own Ubuntu based livecd.

Actually, this does sound on-target, doesn't it?

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#72 2014-02-02 02:24:54

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

pvsage wrote:

I'm mostly just chaperoning this party, but...

After downloading Ubuntu Mini Remix you can use Ubuntu Customization Kit, Ubuntu Builder, Customizer or any other tool to remaster the ISO and add the software/configurations you want, building your own Ubuntu based livecd.

Actually, this does sound on-target, doesn't it?

The first thing you need to decide is how you want to do it, and what kind of installer you would want to use. It can be done very difficult, and it can be done so easy that anyone would be able to do it. There are many ways to build a custom live-cd. The question is how you want to make it into a redistributable ISO/distro, and that`s actually the difficult part. Especially if you want every part of the installation process to run smoothly without any hickups, and not having to sort out a lot of stuff after the install has finished.

Personally I will use a modified remastersys-installer, which Vastone has done a excellent job improving, and adapting it to VSIDO. I just have to bend it a little to fit my distros..., and my preferences. The only real limitation I have with the modified remastersys, is that it doesn`t have EFI-support OOTB. But then again, that isn`t in Crunchbang either.

Hopefully me or someone else will be able to add that, because there isn`t a better way build a distro, than to take a snapshot of a working install that you have been able to test thoroughly in all kinds of scenarios.

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#73 2014-04-03 06:34:23

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Hey guys, First of all thanks for this idea. I read about crunchbuntu a few times in the last months but never figured out why the heck would I need a crunchbang-ized ubuntu install... until yesterday.  tongue

Instead of a light weight  Ubunbtu netinstall I used a live KXStudio live USB, basically a simplified Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS with a very stripped down KDE on top and a nice bloat of audio apps and tools.  cool

It went fine. Installed openbox and the needed extra apps plus the recommended Waldorf packages and replaced kdm by slim. Turned out fine. Needed some configuration but it works mostly fine and essentially... fast and responsive.

My main issue is that replacing kdm by slim screwed the reboot and shutdown functions. Now they don't work neither in kde nor openbox. I used a modified cb-exit in openbox. But the problem seems to be systemwide. Any ideas to try?

A second but less important issue is that the systray doesn't show up in tint2.

Aside of that and needing to purge some unwanted apps in the audio department (a few from the original kde install have already gone) I'm very happy with the result.

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#74 2014-04-03 08:22:28

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I solved the cb-exit issues by the brute force. Replaced the commands by

/sbin/shutdown -h -P now

and

/sbin/shutdown -r now

And works fine now.

Any ideas about the systray in tint2?

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#75 2014-04-03 14:22:30

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Is the systray enabled in your tint2 config?

Also after tint2 has loaded, try launching an application that uses the systray. Or if you already have one running, kill it and run it again.

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