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#26 2013-08-12 08:31:54

oupsemma
#! Junkie
From: Cumbria / UK
Registered: 2008-12-06
Posts: 319

Re: Lavabit shut down

pvsage wrote:

But does a UK citizen like oupsemma have to worry so much about PRISM if he avoids traffic on US servers?  (I suppose the fact that so many of us #! users are US citizens makes the #! forums within the NSA's jurisdicktion though.

Err, have you heard about  GCHQ?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/ … lance-work
Besides, as an English resident and not citizen, I'm phoning a lot abroad...

Geezer wrote:

I don't want to sound like a spoilsport, but you might want to look a little closer at how secure gmx, Telekom, and web.de are in terms of PRISM, etc.

I know they are not secure.
And Germans can fear for their privacy
http://www.dw.de/new-law-allows-german- … a-16916923

PS: Deutsche Welle and Der Speigel have very good English news sites:
http://www.dw.de/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/


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901 with Manjaro & ArchBang

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#27 2013-08-14 14:16:33

gutterslob
#! Resident Bum
Registered: 2009-11-03
Posts: 3,207

Re: Lavabit shut down

In case anyone's still following this thread.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013 … -decision/


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#28 2013-08-14 16:45:14

holden
#! Member
Registered: 2012-06-23
Posts: 74

Re: Lavabit shut down

I got effed also. Lavabit was my main account.


'Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink' - Charles Bukowski

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#29 2013-08-15 02:27:48

DigitalJedi
#! CrunchBanger
From: Gaza
Registered: 2012-11-20
Posts: 120

Re: Lavabit shut down

Govern-ment spying on everyone... I guess the term "conspiracy theory" doesn't make any sense by now.

By the way, did you know that "they" can also access your phone's mic & cam, even when it's off?

The only way to be completely private is to take out the battery!

Crazy times, Hitler would be proud.


"Do or do not. There is no try." ~ Master Jedi Yoda

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#30 2013-08-15 02:30:04

DigitalJedi
#! CrunchBanger
From: Gaza
Registered: 2012-11-20
Posts: 120

Re: Lavabit shut down

And on some Smartphones you cannot take the battery out, like iPhone...


"Do or do not. There is no try." ~ Master Jedi Yoda

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#31 2013-08-15 08:36:30

Jishm
Member
From: Ireland
Registered: 2013-05-13
Posts: 12

Re: Lavabit shut down

Sleepwalking into totalitarianism.


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#32 2013-08-17 02:33:07

shengchieh
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2009-01-07
Posts: 617

Re: Lavabit shut down

DigitalJedi wrote:

And on some Smartphones you cannot take the battery out, like iPhone...

But you can make a faraway (sp?) cage, i.e., wrap the phone with aluminum foil or put it in a metal box.

Sheng-Chieh

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#33 2013-08-17 04:02:44

gutterslob
#! Resident Bum
Registered: 2009-11-03
Posts: 3,207

Re: Lavabit shut down

shengchieh wrote:

But you can make a faraway (sp?) cage

It's Faraday.... and yes, definitely advisable to have one close by. Also make sure to get an old kick-start carbureted motocross bike, remove its spark plugs and ignition coil, and put them in said faraday cage. That way, once the worldwide EMP disaster eventually hits, just remove said components from cage, reinstall them on bike, and you're good to go.... at least till you run out of gas, then you'll need to find an old-skool analog pump station. Cumbersome, but still beats the crap outta horses and sage ponies. =P

[/slob's post-apocalyptic survival guide: lesson 8]

Last edited by gutterslob (2013-08-17 10:43:33)


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#35 2013-08-18 08:15:05

DigitalJedi
#! CrunchBanger
From: Gaza
Registered: 2012-11-20
Posts: 120

Re: Lavabit shut down

Los Federalistas wrote:

It's illegal to shut down cryptographic email services without the approval of the NSA unless we do it ourselves!!!

Land of the free doesn't apply anymore either.

Looks like dark times approach, really fast and now there's no place really safe.

John Edgar Hoover (director of FBI), in The Elks Magazine, August 1956 wrote:

The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.

Link

Overall, I think the situation will only change when it starts to affect the vast majority of the people, at the same time; then we'll see something forming, a movement, an idea, whatever. Till then, I'm fine-tuning my distro...


"Do or do not. There is no try." ~ Master Jedi Yoda

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#36 2013-10-16 06:08:01

gutterslob
#! Resident Bum
Registered: 2009-11-03
Posts: 3,207

Re: Lavabit shut down

For those of you that used to rely on Lavabit, you might want to take a look at these links
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013 … r-e-mails/
https://liberty.lavabit.com/


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#37 2013-10-16 07:24:27

el_koraco
#!/loony/bun
From: inside Ed
Registered: 2011-07-25
Posts: 4,749

Re: Lavabit shut down

Levinson gets major bonus points for the whole thing. A stand up guy really.

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#38 2013-10-16 09:22:40

dot|not
#! Junkie
From: /dev/null
Registered: 2013-09-05
Posts: 371

Re: Lavabit shut down

I might be paranoid, but .. the SSL-certificate has been revoked by godaddy. I'd feel uncomfortable about logging in once again. (These are the moments where I am happy about my backuped mails.)

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#39 2013-10-16 09:55:52

gutterslob
#! Resident Bum
Registered: 2009-11-03
Posts: 3,207

Re: Lavabit shut down

The old SSL cert was revoked the moment Lavabit handed over a copy of it to the government. I think Levinson had to do that or he'd be locked up or face massive fines. Some comments on Ars say that you can actually find low-rez scans online. It seems he then went and got a new one.

I think it's mainly just a means to offer those that haven't backed up their valuable emails/contacts/receipts a window to do so. He's helping annoyed customers out a bit, but everybody knows that there's a possibility of someone watching. All the users that really have something to hide will probably not use this opportunity to access their data regardless.


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#40 2013-10-16 10:53:00

dot|not
#! Junkie
From: /dev/null
Registered: 2013-09-05
Posts: 371

Re: Lavabit shut down

The old SSL cert was revoked the moment Lavabit handed over a copy of it to the government. I think Levinson had to do that or he'd be locked up or face massive fines. Some comments on Ars say that you can actually find low-rez scans online. It seems he then went and got a new one.

I know, I read the story about the SSL pages being handed over on 4-point font 12 pages long printed paper, and I loved the man for doing so.

I think it's mainly just a means to offer those that haven't backed up their valuable emails/contacts/receipts a window to do so. He's helping annoyed customers out a bit, but everybody knows that there's a possibility of someone watching. All the users that really have something to hide will probably not use this opportunity to access their data regardless.

That's what I wanted to hint, that there might be somebody watching. This is in no way directed towards the head of Lavabit. But rather the FBI, NSA or whoever is involved.

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