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#1 2012-01-22 18:56:34

Jabroneous
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

That's basically it! I can't find any settings to change this.

There's no problem if I install the new image (32-bit) and add Xfce and go from there, but I prefer to use the February Xfce image because of the settings for Conky and others that are already in place (I honestly don't know how to tweak all that myself).

I'm surprised that no one else has run into this issue, actually. I'm on an Eee 1005HA, if that information helps. Thanks!

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#2 2012-01-22 19:17:58

xaos52
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Registered: 2011-06-24
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Can you post output of the commands

uname -a
lspci 

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#3 2012-01-22 20:24:34

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

eeepc@crunchbang:~$ uname -a
Linux crunchbang 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae #1 SMP Thu Aug 4 11:02:22 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
eeepc@crunchbang:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0)
02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
eeepc@crunchbang:~$

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#4 2012-01-23 05:24:06

fratermus
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From: 75081, USA
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

ps -ef | grep unclutter

brother mouse
new to crunchbang.
my first linux kernel build was on a 386-16sx with 6MB SIPP RAM ($50/MB!)

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#5 2012-01-23 05:47:51

Jabroneous
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

ps -ef | grep unclutter

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#6 2012-01-23 07:58:02

CBizgreat!
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Registered: 2011-07-27
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Warning, anything and/or everything that follows may bork your OS. Probably won't, but feel better saying that, shrugs.

I have zero experience with unclutter, but it is avail in synaptic for install. Other babbling to include. Might try installing some more xfce plugins. If these are missing that is ( not already installed ). This one looked like a poss for ya, xfce-settings. Guess someone could also go for the whole shebang and install xfce-goodies ... Lotsa stuff comes with that though. Aside from being addicted to WM's and now allergic to desktops at all.

Think one thing to keep in mind about xfce is it's supposed to be uber extensible. Well no doubt is, but once someone installs enough plugins for it, it's going to get heavier and heavier on sys resources. Guessing the less the better, #! openbox obviously uses several xfce packages anyway. Imo less is more regardless. I want n prefer to keep things as light as possible myself. One of the many reasons think #! is soooooo goooooood. Doesn't make all that much sense to use xfce if it's as heavy as gnome or whatever. Recall that being one of the reasons I didn't like many an xfce distro. They had way too much stuff installed by default or worse using gnome packages instead of xfce plugins for alot of stuff, arghhhh. Leading to em being a bloated mess. Only 2 cents on it.


Hope helps ... End babble.

ps, nope more babble, as usual thought of summin else to add for the sake of thorough blahblah. Might do a search for xfce in synaptic see what's installed vs what's available. And o course, guessing since it's Debian stable repos. Am extremely sure the xfce version there isn't 4.8 etc.

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#7 2012-01-23 10:22:11

fratermus
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From: 75081, USA
Registered: 2012-01-20
Posts: 149
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

eeepc     4279  4262  0 00:46 pts/0    00:00:00 grep unclutter

Last edited by fratermus (2012-01-23 10:30:36)


brother mouse
new to crunchbang.
my first linux kernel build was on a 386-16sx with 6MB SIPP RAM ($50/MB!)

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#8 2012-01-23 21:18:12

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

eeepc     4279  4262  0 00:46 pts/0    00:00:00 grep unclutter

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#9 2012-01-23 21:37:52

ivanovnegro
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From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,432

Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Are you also sure the mouse is not broken in any way?

Also Xfce can be very minimal especially on Debian and that is the case on my box, idle at 90 MB RAM.

If you want to install some of the goodies, do it app per app and not the whole stuff, that won't clutter your system.

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#10 2012-01-23 21:46:26

CBizgreat!
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2012-01-23 21:57:16)

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#11 2012-01-23 21:55:52

ivanovnegro
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

If you want a newer kernel on Debian Stable aka #! Statler, seems now 3.1 is in the backports. You could try it of course, cannot hurt.

Also, what is happening with your power management? Did you try to disable some things or everything regarding to it to see what happens with the mouse then?

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#12 2012-01-23 22:11:21

CBizgreat!
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2012-01-23 22:15:22)

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#13 2012-01-23 22:17:07

pvsage
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

@Ivan:  So far I've only seen 3.1 in the 64-bit flavor; probably going to drop down the pneumatic pipe for 32-bit soon though.  (It may already be available for manual install in 32-bit; I only noticed it for 64-bit because it came through on a dist-upgrade.)

EDIT:  I just checked the apt cache; the 32-bit 3.1 kernel image isn't in backports yet.

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#14 2012-01-23 22:23:58

CBizgreat!
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

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#15 2012-01-23 22:36:51

ivanovnegro
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Yes, xfce4-settings is the package where you can find also the mouse settings but I do not think that is the problem here. Also that should be already installed by default on the Feb release of Statler.

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#16 2012-01-24 02:03:43

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Yep, this started immediately after the kernel upgrade, before I removed anything Xfce-related. Everything is as it was from the fresh install.

Tried the aptosid kernel approach, but to no avail. But on a lighter note, I'm very glad to hear that 3.1 is coming to backports!!

Edit: My system, with Xfce, can idle at a bit under 70mb, so it's definitely nimble. smile

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#17 2012-01-24 05:08:39

fratermus
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From: 75081, USA
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39


brother mouse
new to crunchbang.
my first linux kernel build was on a 386-16sx with 6MB SIPP RAM ($50/MB!)

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#18 2012-01-24 07:28:13

CBizgreat!
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

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#19 2012-01-24 07:52:11

VastOne
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Registered: 2011-04-26
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Just as an FYI, liquorix is now at 3.2.0-1 easily obtained with smxi..  and humming quite nicely IMHO

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#20 2012-01-24 13:19:16

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Last edited by Jabroneous (2012-01-24 13:20:34)

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#21 2012-01-24 14:05:46

xaos52
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Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

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#22 2012-01-24 21:27:43

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Mouse disappears after a mere second of inactivity in Xfce w/ 2.6.39

Nope.

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