Well, back in the days i was distro hopping all day long.. every day.. for months.
Now, i had to RMA my main laptop back to MSI since some hardware is broken (HDD, Optical drive, LED's on the left side of my keyboard). Having an pretty old laptop here (Samsung R610) with windows on it.. first start was like.. wtf is this? Downloaded Crunchbang, installed it.. now the post install script is working on the background and i start using crunchbang on this laptop till i get my main laptop back
@CSCoder4ever i have the feeling that all the guys on the manjaro forum feeling so pro because they use an "arch" derivate, which really isnt (as you said). Same with ubuntu.. ubuntu isnt debian, so like manjaro isnt arch, i posted one tutorial on the manjaro forums but after that i logged out and never logged back in again.. i dont like the forums there.
I like arch yes, but i think crunchbang is the right way for me
i used all the arch derivates also and i would prefer and recommend arch plain also now
You need time to get into it (even to the installation), but once you're in it its good.
Oh btw, google for "archlinux dirty way" installation (should be first link from OC forum), this helped me alot
@CSCoder4ever: Thats true! You have the full control over your system, without a doubt And i'm glad and proud i did the plain install, but i want to be productive on my goals and thats not arch
@Head_on_a_Stick yeah i noticed it also, but i want to focus on other things Continue learning PHP, Java, HTML, etc.
No doubt, if you want to learn about linux and its "inner strength", arch is the way to go.
If you want an alternative which is already powerfull out of the box - crunchbang.
My current way i want to do is dual booting win 7 and crunchbang. Win7 for gaming only. I only install updates, needed drivers and the games, that it.. no unneded, unneccessary donkey cr*p and if i feel like do my interwebz stuff, reboot > crunchbang
Why i do this? Well i cant live without games 100% i was grown with gaming and pc's so .. yeah thats why. Gaming under Linux is working, but not as good as expected, especially with the hybrid drivers, so take the "easy router" with dual boot and its fine for ME. What others say i dont care much since its my laptop
Oh well, at least i installed plain arch by own twice without issues and i think thats a good experience everybody should have done who is a little geek :>
I finally got arch working (plain) - wasnt that hard, easy going.. nah, just kidding, i tried it over and over again until i got it, but the last time i tried it without UEFI, and vóila.. plain arch installed. The boot-time is ridiculous (systemd-analyze showed me something around 10-11s, without the NetworkManager thingy it would be around 8s).
Now, installed my system, some fonts, basic stuff and downloaded dota 2.. meh.. my hybrid graphics are screwed, bumblebee is running, even enabled by default startup etc. Cant get it.. opengl error (all lib32's are installed > optirun and primusrun glxspheres are working but still.. this error), no biggy.. because.. You know, my old love is in my mind.. #!
Everytime i use any distro, no matter which one, i miss #!, even tho its based on stable and older software etc. bla.. Do i really the newest stuff? Dont know, i'm kinda new to the linux stuff, BUT i noticed when i install #! and update my system, its booting faster than arch with XFCE (or its just placebo) and the overall performance feels a lot snappier on #! when its up2date, could it be placebo or is it because of my hardware which is working better with debian?
Anyways, even tho i got arch installed i still think about #! and i really miss it hardly
// Edit: I have to say, i like communities, especially when they are like the #!
It feels so great here, when you read around, when search for help or when you open a thread (even when a similiar thread is above.. derp!), you always get a suitable answer with a kind manner and thats a BIG plus point for me (personally).
Few months back i was a "graphic" guy and worked with photoshoped hard, did signatures for other forums, for developers (android) etc., but .. doom day.. windows screwed my HDD, i had to use my backup HDD as my main HDD and ALL my work was gone, everything.. i was sad, really.. and from this day i decided to switch to linux completly and well.. maybe i can get into GIMP The "skill" is there (4 years experience), but switching from Photoshop to GIMP will be hard i think, or use WINE, i'll see
What i want to say.. if i get into GIMP (or get PS working) i may create some signatures for the #! users and maybe some unique ones from oders (for free obviously) etc. But i think it'll take a bit time
@HoaS: http://www.imgbase.info/images/safe-wal … inimal.jpg (not exact the same i think?)
@photonucleon: i meant not too fancy of course it looks cool and simple already
Oh well.. i tried to use plain arch earlier this day, but i think.. its way too hard for me
Pretty happy with Antergos. Tried manjaro also earlier and its fully bloated and absolutely dont feels like arch, antergos feels more like arch to me
btw: heres the article from the picture: http://news.softpedia.com/news/quot-Evi … 8675.shtml (very funny!)
It's me again
I still distro-hopped around and always felt back to Antergos with XFCE.
I've read alot in the last few days/weeks and i noticed arch COULD be stable, but it can be stab in your heart aswell.
So, i played a bit around with my "system" and figured out what "systemd" is (at least a bit) and i'm impressed by the boot-time (18s), even tho i still can trim it down.
BUT i always have to think about #!.. its like your "first love", it's always on your mind...
Now i'm wondering, since i kinda feel "outdated" when i use #!, do you guys recommend to update my whole system when i use #!?
Like kernel and even install systemd, or let's say.. update/upgrade to SID?
The reason is, my focus is on continue learning web development (didnt had a chance to do it because of my distro hopping and learn about linux, not that bad at all) BUT sometimes play a few rounds Dota2 and i want a decent goal for it (dont play with a low resolution and low settings - on windows i can play on full HD with highest settings with ~70-80FPS), but mostly.. i want to be effective and focus on other things (i even wrote a little tutorial already to get the damned MSI Keyboard lights working under arch, i think i'll upload it somewhere where it belongs to, and i even would write one for debian based distros.. - i want to say with this, i'm a little community guy, when i have something, i share it, for sure.. i like to be a part of a great community and on arch, well.. i feel like a little guy in the corner ).
So, what do you think?
Update my whole system to not feel THAT outdated and use the lovely crunchbang? Or leave it as it is and love it?
Thank you guys!
Alright guys. I was on antergos and everytime I set up my system I miss crunchbang so bad.. I dont even know why. I think I'm more familiar with debian. The uefi support on antergos is a "nice to have" feature but not a must have imo. But before switching back to #! I'll try out something exotic: sabayon. I believe it's a whole different level since I never used gentoo but I'm very curious about it. On crunchbang I only have the feeling I use outdated drivers which won't work properly with dota2. Even tho I tried to installed the "nvidia-indicator" on crunchbang which wasn't working I think I have to read more about all these releases to get it working (or it simply isn't compatible with openbox). But #! Have something I miss everytime when I'm on another distro, but still didn't figure out what.
@Alad i watched your blog and found this topic: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I
Seems very great for "new" #!'ers looks like "how to update" your system and set it up properly, am i right?
If so, i prefer more #! now, even tho Antergos (which is a derivate) can run in uefi, but do i really care about it since i reboot barerly? I dont think so
BTW guys a little off-topic question here (to avoid topic-spam):
Having 8GB RAM and since i have a laptop i hibernate almost every night when i go sleep, i've read i should have a 2xRAM as swap, is it right?
Actually i stand between #! and Antergos
I know i could run some heavy distros (4x 2.4GHz, 8GB RAM), but.. why should i? They all look like Windows or at least it feels like windows and i want to go away from it, since i quit gaming (i know.. wasted money on a gaming laptop, but whatever... i will focus on something which is more futureproof - web development, web security instead of spend and waste time on gaming every day), and these distros are doing fine actually.
Antergos having UEFI support out of the box and seems pretty stable so far, but #! feels awesome also! Damn
// Edit: It sounds a bit dumb, when i say "go away from windows cuz of quit gaming", but i wanted to say that i want to go away from windows, because i mainly need a stable, fast and secure system, AND windows already burned my built-in HDD a few weeks ago.
I'm currently at a dilemma.
The last 3-4 weeks i tested a bunch of distros with different bases, here's my list:
By far my favorite Debian-based distro right now! And hopefully my future distro to install it fully on my HDD.
Since i have a bit of exotic Laptop (MSI GT70 0nd - Without SSD) it seems older releases having problems with it. I need to add "nomodeset" to get it booting (for live USB) and add the line after installation (install is running fine, without any probs).
BUT still, getting some errors on boot (Bad Target number - i can ignore it, because its still booting up fine, seems like nouveau drivers dont like my hybrid card - Intel/nVidia - is it possible to detect all the errors to get a fully clean boot up? I mean.. #! is running fine and after updating my GPU drivers i get the right resolution, so not a real biggy, but still existing..). So far #! is a great distro, even tho its openbox, but its a whole different world than all the other distros i tested and i think if i work with it for a while it will be awesome! Also i read so many great positive feedbacks on blogs, forums and G+ that i really going start to love it and i think i can easily upgrade my system to jessie, since #! is based on Wheezy.. but thats another topic i think
The only Arch-based distro which i really like and which was the longest time on my HDD, even with UEFI it's working great and fast. I choosed XFCE on this one. Everything worked great here, my Hardware was fully supported etc. Also i like pacman much, but i'm not sure about AUR and the bleeding-edge. I like it to have a "up2date" system, especially with my hardware i think its a good deal. Stability.. well, used it for like 3 days and didnt face any issue, everything worked here.
Can't say much about it, just used it for a few hours.. Its arch based yeah, but it feels like a "ubuntu for arch", even with their repos its not a good deal for me. It looks nice and runs smooth, but yeah.. not for me
No feedback here..
No feedback here..
So, it might be wrong to ask it in the #! forums, but i would like to know it Since i really like #! and maybe i can resolve my "problems" (which arent problems, maybe?) and get started deeper with #!.
Thanks in advice
Wont work for me..
- Used Win32DiskImage writer, reboot, changed to UEFI (from Legacy), fastboot off, security boot off, the USB stick isnt even detected
- Second try i used Rufus, booted up again with UEFI, pressed F11 for boot options, choosed the stick and my laptop instantly booted back to the bios menu..
Any other solutions?