A grup can be any age, I agree. My Papa will always be a kid at heart even if he lives to be a hundred years old. It's one of the coolest things about him. My mom, well, she was probably a grup in her teens.
Both of them acting with immaturity this week, well that's a long story. Too long and too sad for this thread. Suffice it to say, so far at least, that I'm "proud of myself" for remaining "above the fray."
This is nothing new, the writers of Star Trek have described these little faster-than-light particles (called "Tachyons") in several episodes of TNG, and tachyons even pushed a model of an ancient Bajoran ship (using a solar sail) to warp speed in an episode of DS9. What a ride that must have been for the ancient Bajorans, lol.
^ Have you thought about the "traditional way" of installing a minimal version (in your case the CLI minimal installation of Ubuntu) and then populating it with a DE and the #!-typical things? When #! was Ubuntu-based, some users did this. (similar to the netinstall/base-install approach)
That was my very first successful "home made" Linux mixture. It was mostly Openbox/LXDE and ultralight but kid-friendly applications. "Robin's Remix" was meant to rescue a reeeeeally old computer from the landfill, but still be easy enough for other kids to use without "coaching."
I never mentioned that it was Linux at all. It only had dance school wallpaper and large, easy-to-recognize icons that opened applications with easy names like "Web Browser," "Writer," "Music Player," etc. It was plenty fast for such an old machine and the studio owner thought I was some kind of computer guru who "fixed Windows 98 better than new."
Only when dancers, teachers, or family members asked about it's speed and simplicity would I mention that it wasn't Windows at all, but Linux. And I could offer a LiveCD of "Robin's Remix" for them if they wanted to. I got the idea to do that after letting another dancer use my laptop (LXDE on Crunchbang 9.04) when she wanted to take it home, lol.
Sometimes I get absolutely pissed off at the "older generation" because of the insurmountable debt I'm about to inherit from them. While they enjoy retirement and all the old-age "entitlements," I will probably never know retirement at all. And there are alot fewer of us younger folks left to pay that debt off too. Over 40 million future taxpayers have been slaughtered so far, before they could even draw their first breath. Leaving fewer survivors to be taxed into oblivion and never see retirement.
I'm just going to leave this here.....
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A kid-friendly BSoD. I like the little : ( thingy.
I don't really mind being little most of the time, and as I wrote in today's blog post, it even has a few advantages. But when I need to be taken seriously, looking like a little kid becomes a minor annoyance. Most days I laugh it off. Yesterday it made me late to both my appointments. Rawr.
All the police dispatchers in my home town know me, so whenever some out-of-towner dials 911 to report "a small child driving a car," the operator asks for a description of the car and if it matches mine, they sometimes inform the caller that it's okay. "It's just a tiny person, but old enough to drive. Got a license. But thank you for calling."
When I go out of town, though, it's a pain. Yesterday I got pulled over twice by the cops, and I can always guess why. Sure enough, they received reports of "a small child driving a car. That kid can't me more than 10 or 11 years old."
It was funny for awhile, but it's bothersome now that I have to leave extra early to allow for a pull-off or two to show my driver's license to an incredulous police officer who runs the license and tag on my car (which takes more time) because "you look like a 10-year-old, Mister Taylor."
Duh. I know. Can't help it. Can I go now? Do me a favor and let the other cops know I'm legitimate to drive here please?
Seamonkey (Iceape) is a suite (browser and dedicated e-mail client rolled into one app - kinda sorta like Opera). Actually it's the old Netscape (Navigator/Communicator) now under Mozilla's control - but without the maddening rapid pace of releases. Very "Thunderbirdy and Firefoxy."
I use it exclusively (one app per task, generally).
The question of origins ("where did God come from then?") seems to me to be based on the supposition that time has always existed; that it has always "moved" at the rate and in the direction that we observe here on one tiny celestial ball among trillions.
Time itself is a created thing, perhaps. And Einstein demonstrated that time is not a constant, fixed thing for all beings everywhere. Surely whoever had the imagination to create all this awesome stuff, could exist outside of time.
I'm not trying to "prove that God exists," I'm just say'n that we humans make all kinds of broad assumptions because we assume that the way we see things here is the way things are everywhere for everyone. I say that kind of thinking is arrogant. And arrogance makes fools of even the smartest of people.
Proof?! I think it takes alot more blind faith to look at the universe with all of it's perfect balances of this against that, matter and energy, and the sheer awesomeness of creation - and conclude that it all came about by random chance than it does to believe that all this is the work of a Designer with a purpose. Just say'n.
Such great points being made in this thread but I would probably go straight to slackware because well I like the name and I am sure its not so bad.
The name really makes an impression, doesn't it? When I first heard of a Linux distro called "Crunchbang" I just had to give it a go - just for that wicked-kewl name!
SalixOS has a sub-title of "Linux for Lazy Slackers."
Oh, wow, gotta try it! Of course you have to already know what they mean by "Slacker," or you might get the idea that it's for that nerdy middle-aged unemployed guy that lives in his parents' basement...
Woo-hoo, we almost had a whole new thread about Slackware going! [/hijack] lol.
I will only add that I think Salix is a very good intro to Slackware for newcomers who may have only known Ubu and Mint and other "friendly" distros. It has a package manager that is kinda-sorta like Synaptic, automatically handling dependency issues using "slapt-get." And the newest version has a new tool called "sourcery" which enables easy compiling.
Salix makes Slackware "friendlier" in the same kinda way that Mepis and Mint and Ubu "make Debian friendlier." So yeah, Salix for an intro to Slackware is really good. Just go slowly and pay attention to what you're doing - like we all did when we first started with Linux.
... a tech savvy nix user could turn it into a PC rocketship in a couple hours.
Hey that's a great idea! That's my next project.... a Linux powered starship!
Oh, maybe Debian beat me to it, actually... one of my favorites wallpapers in my collection is the Debian rocketship breaking Earth orbit (it looks like a little kids' drawing but it's wicked cool). Captioned "the Universal Operating System."
Ubuntu "brought Debian to the ordinary computer user" in a way that Debian could not or would not do themselves - perhaps due to strict interpretation of their "Debian philosophy." Mepis and others have done the same, but of course, not with the same level of success that Canonical has achieved (all that Shuttleworth money donated helps I'm sure).
But updates and stuff break Ubuntu alot. But to be fair, updates "break" Debian Sid as well - and Ubu is built on Sid, 'cept for the LTS releases, which are now built on Testing (starting with 10.04). My bigggest gripe with Ubuntu has been the inclusion of buggy, beta software in a distro intended for novice Linux users. Is gaining a few seconds faster boot time really worth all the trouble Plymouth caused? And PulseAudio, geez... another nightmare. Both are fixed now, but when they were introduced, they caused all kindsa problems. Now there is new buggy beta crapware being thrown at newbies in "the newbie-friendly distro."
Another gripe of mine is that while I realize Ubu isn't intended for use on older, modest hardware, even Xubu (which is marketed that way) may outpace the old hardware it's supposed to be aimed at before long. When Lucid reaches end-of-life, I fear the next LTS will be too much for this old hand-me-down Dell. And in this economy I'm not in the market for a new 'puter.
That's one of the things that has me seriously looking at Slackware (and Slackware-compatible distros). Early versions of Slackware are still supported - lonnnnnng after Fedora, Ubuntu, and even Debian have stopped support for versions that old. Updates simply do not break a Slackware box. According to my research, it just does not happen! How cool is that!?
So yeah, Xubu fanboi though I am, I can still find fault with it and with Canonical. But I'll always be very grateful for my introduction to Linux because of their generosity, imagination, and of course, that awesome community.
When I first tried Crunchbang it was built on Ubuntu 9.04 and ran trouble-free on this old dinosaur. The switch to Debian crippled it for me. But it obviously was the right thing for the majority of Crunchbangers and I'm happy to see the project continuing to thrive.
But I've had an easier time of it experimenting with Salix than I have so far with Debian-based Crunchbang, to be honest. Perhaps by the time Wheezy comes around, if this old 'puter can handle it, I'll revisit my old friend Crunchbang, in all it's dark and sinister-looking and wickedly geeky-coolness!
We eat, we drink, we deposit the final products of our digestion into oval ceramic deposites, we procreate and in some special not-so-publically-important moments, we combine digestion and procreation.
Thanks for the reminder of why I was away for so long... all this smoking and drinking and "adult" conversation.
I think I don't really belong here.