While I would have liked to see the new project use the CrunchBang name, Philip did not want any spinoffs to keep the name when he first threw in the towel. I'd say it's a bit late now. Plenty of work has gone into BL and the new forums for it are open etc.
Time to turn the page.
@saturn9 Glad to see you are still around. I don't think there many of us here from 2008. Weren't many to start with. Maybe we should have a 2008 club. I'd vote for Philip as prez! He might even accept the honour if we tell him it comes only with fame and glory and no responsibilities.
I agree with you about BL. I just tried it out a few days ago and the guys have done a great job with it.
@corenominal Hey Philip, if you look at my registered date you'll see I joined these forums about 2 weeks after you yourself. I had been following your project for a while before that. There were not many on the forums when I first came here but it looked like an interesting project so I stuck around.
CrunchBang ended up being the distro of choice for me for a long time compared to others I tried before and since. Even when I have been using something else, the CrunchBang forums have remained my community of choice. Now I'm playing with the very #! flavoured Bunsen. Well Bunsen may not be your project but it sure does have your stamp on it. What you created and shared with us has been an influence on other projects as well.
So now we will be getting a new forum it seems, and we have reached the end of an era. While I like what the Bunsen gang are doing so far I can tell you that for me it just wont feel the same when I can't say to a friend "oh, for the answer to your question just go to the CrunchBang forums". What you built was cool in it's own right but the name (and the disclaimer that went with it) was definitely part of the charm.
So I finally got around to trying BunsenLabs 8.2 RC1 64 bit. I popped a copy in Virtualbox. Installed the Vbox guest additions to take advantage of my 1920x1200 monitor and it seems pretty solid.
The only thing I had to tweak so far (other than personal prefs) was the dpi setting. Text and icons, the tab bar in iceweaasel, all were rendering rather huge. That only took a minute to fix so, Yay Bunsen! Nice job guys. Very
Maybe I'll see about upgrading it to Sid on the weekend.
I think I may be cured...
Hey Tim, I think Sector11 may be right. No distrohopper is ever really cured.
The first time I used any distro for over a year it was CrunchBang. I thought I was cured. What really happened is, I started hopping around less, but did not stop. There was also a change in how I went about trying things out. Virtualbox became my friend.
I don't hop anywhere near like I used to but I still get the itch to try things out, and occasionally that leads to replacing my main system. I may run something for over a year now, but sooner or later the urge to run one of these Virtualbox experiments full time becomes too hard to resist.
At the moment I'm fiddling with a couple of different flavours of Debian Sid. Just deciding the little details of what set up I like best before replacing Linux Mint Cinnamon, which I like very much but have been running long enough that I feel like a change.
Oh, and Tim, I have to tell you, every time I see the name ratcheer I get this silly Disney-ish cartoon image in my head of happy dancing rats.
So after a bit of discussion earlier about the for vs against of spying on ones own, children I thought what tknomanzr pointed out merited being repeated.
I certainly don't want it a "Core" feature built into the OS. Given Microsoft's track record to date, do they really believe they can secure a keylogger? I know I'm not buying it.
Building into an OS the amount of "spyware" that Microsoft has done with Windows 10 is just not something I think anyone should be comfortable with. Especially given that company's products track record with security.
@KrunchTime You are free to disagree of course, but I think if a parent is doing a good job raising their kids then they should not need to spy on them. I know when I was in my teens and my parents decided to do searches through my room and my things I was outraged at the lack of respect.
People have a natural need for a sense of privacy in there own space and effects, and being young and still at home with the family does not diminish that, nor should it. When my parents decided to start doing this I was not doing anything I should not have been doing and they should have showed me more respect than that.
This is not the same thing as checking up on them to see how they are doing. If the lines of communication between parent and child are such that the parents treat the kids like criminal suspects, even when the kids have done nothing to cause concern, then those parents have some serious issues.
Note: As a 54 year old man, I feel much the same way today about the govt and all the bullshit they try to use to justify increased spying on ordinary law abiding citizens. It's not right. Why should you and I be treated like criminals?
That kind of spying and reporting should absolutely be opt in and not opt out. One more reason to chuck anything Microsoft to the curb. I find it disappointing that so many people still don't understand this or even care.
Privacy is important, especially for teenagers...
I agree 100% and any parent who violates this without a very good reason should be severely reprimanded by the rest of society, in order to emphasise that this should not be acceptable normal behaviour.
If your kids, especially teenagers, have not given any cause for concern, then show them some respect.
Note to Microsoft, show your users more respect. Oh wait, that's too much to ask isn't it?
@CSCoder4ever Yeah I did that once about 5 years or so ago just for kicks, using PelicanHPC. I compiled a kernel on first just my main box, then using the cluster. I wish I had saved the numbers so I could quote the results for you. All I recall now is that it was a huge amount faster.
I was using 5 desktops, and specified more thread use for the compile. Was pretty impressed, but of course the power consumption for daily use made this just a fun experiment. If electricity was free, and more things ran multi-threaded, I would have left it hooked up.
Damo and hhh, thanks for pitching in and helping.
I got the impression from talking with Sector11 recently that he was feeling a bit overloaded while doing more than his usual share of the mod duties during a period of being short handed. I'm sure he and the other mods will be glad to have the extra hands on board whenever part of the mod team are away for holidays etc.
Dug into my vinyl rips and made a CD to play in my car. Best of AC/DC, Anaconda Edition. Funny thing about that. All the selections I ended up using feature Bon Scott. Don't know about anyone else but I just like them better with Bon than with Brian.
Had fun listening to all those earlier albums to pick out the best stuff.
I went to the "store" with the little icon they have prominently placed on the bottom of the screen and saw VLC there. I thought I would install that, and they require that I sign in to a Microsoft account to get this freeware program from their "store."
Thanks for sharing this. I'm going to use it as an example when explaining to friends why they should avoid Windows if possible. The truly sad thing is the overwhelming majority of Windows users will have no idea that they could get VLC (or other open source software) without signing up to be tracked across the universe by Microsoft. It's in the store right? So that must be where you have to get it from.
Your other comments-observations were spot on. Especially the following.
developed by Microsoft to be a surveillance machine wrapped around an operating system.
Yes that is exactly what it is.