USB Install

toor58 · 2010-03-21 23:55:09

What is "sdd" command. I can not find an entry in the man pages. Can you explain how you changed "dd" to "sdd"?

Thanks

Michael

Kuno · 2010-03-22 00:25:22

toor58 wrote:

What is "sdd" command. I can not find an entry in the man pages. Can you explain how you changed "dd" to "sdd"?
Thanks
Michael

I transferred the iso to usb from within my madbox-9.10-ubuntu. In the ubuntu-repos (at least in karmic), there is this "sdd" -program, which on install substitutes "dd".
So "sudo apt-get install sdd" should install sdd. I then replaced the dd with sdd:

sudo sdd if=/path/to/iso/crunchbang-10-openbox-alpha01-i686.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync

Good Luck!

Edit: forgot: my iso - download was named "crunchbang-10-alpha-01-openbox-i686.iso" - not "crunchbang-10-openbox-alpha01-i686.iso" like in the tutorial... roll

Last edited by Kuno (2010-03-22 00:29:03)

corenominal · 2010-03-22 01:38:54

My apologies to everyone who has had trouble with their USB installs. Thank you all for providing your feedback, I will most definitely work to improve the situation. Apologies again and I hope this has not been too much of a painful/frustrating experience for you. sad

FiniteStateMachine · 2010-03-22 01:53:12

corenominal wrote:

My apologies to everyone who has had trouble with their USB installs. Thank you all for providing your feedback, I will most definitely work to improve the situation. Apologies again and I hope this has not been too much of a painful/frustrating experience for you.

Least you've got some feedback now. Your wiki instructions would be perfect I and others were even presented with that screen.
I'm not entirely sure what you can do corenomial, but if you figure it out, thats great smile .

Besides, it's alpha1. I'm sure you'll have it golden for alpha 2.

corenominal · 2010-03-22 02:20:33

blackbinary wrote:

corenominal wrote:
My apologies to everyone who has had trouble with their USB installs. Thank you all for providing your feedback, I will most definitely work to improve the situation. Apologies again and I hope this has not been too much of a painful/frustrating experience for you.
Least you've got some feedback now. Your wiki instructions would be perfect I and others were even presented with that screen.
I'm not entirely sure what you can do corenomial, but if you figure it out, thats great .

Providing some USB specific images should help to solve the problem, hopefully. smile

Besides, it's alpha1. I'm sure you'll have it golden for alpha 2.

I hope so! smile

Vantskruv · 2010-03-22 05:17:13

Haha, corenominal, that's why it is alpha, you should not apologize. Just wait until you release the final version, then we will hammer you! wink

Kuno · 2010-03-22 07:42:28

Vantskruv wrote:

Haha, corenominal, that's why it is alpha, you should not apologize.

+1

smile

fabsh · 2010-03-22 09:02:59

I agree, stop apologizing! wink

Actually, my problems have been solved by following the wiki entry. It looks like it was unetbootin. After dd'ing the same image to a stick, it all works. Happy camper! big_smile

Toolz · 2010-03-22 09:05:21

corenominal wrote:

Providing some USB specific images should help to solve the problem, hopefully.

I think it'd be great to download just the one image, test in a virtual machine, run live (from USB) ... then finally install - from 'live' is nice, from boot is fine too.

I've heard of some kind of 'iso/img hybrid'. I don't know the nitty-gritty but Easy Peasy were dabbling with it. For reference, Eeebuntu are dabbling with Debian now and their beta works with Unetbootin, per my recollection.

snowpine · 2010-03-22 12:06:25

No problems with the official "dd" method for me.

Hanna · 2010-03-22 14:13:08

I am trying to install openbox i686 from 1gb usb stick to my Compaq Evo and according the sticker with Pentium 4.

p0rksh3d wrote:

found a solution to the usb install hickup
Select "No" from "Detect and Mount CD-ROM"
Main Menu Select "Execute Shell"
type: mount /dev/sdX cdrom
(mine was "mount /dev/sda cdrom" because my hd is /dev/hda)
type: exit
Main Menu select "Detect and Mount CD-ROM" again
voila

I did this. And I think it worked.

Then it was not able to configure network automatically

NETWORK AUTOCONFIGURATION FAILED
your network is proably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly.
continue

So I continue and it gives different options like trying again, not doing anything or doing it manually.

I decided that I will not do it because I do not know how to config it manually. I know nothing about network configuration, I just know I have wireless and external card thing (d link... oh now I found the slash, I wonder where hyphen is) and i know the name of the network thing when I choose it from network manager and I know the password. So I continued and started the partition installing thing. I was quite happy when I noticed that I could have separate home. So I continue and then it says that installation failed.

INSTALL THE SYSTEM
Installation step failed
An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else instead. The failing step is= Install the system .

So I tried to run this install the system again but it did not work. sad

Last edited by Hanna (2010-03-22 14:17:16)

FiniteStateMachine · 2010-03-22 14:18:48

Hanna wrote:

Then it was not able to configure network automatically
NETWORK AUTOCONFIGURATION FAILED
your network is proably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly.
continue
So I continue and it gives different options like trying again, not doing anything or doing it manually.
I decided that I will not do it because I do not know how to config it manually. I know nothing about network configuration, I just know I have wireless and external card thing (d link... oh now I found the slash, I wonder where hyphen is) and i know the name of the network thing when I choose it from network manager and I know the password.

Actually Hanna, you might want to try selecting 'do not configure network now', and proceeding with the install.
The CD has all the latest packages on it, and I found for my wireless card, it could not be setup during install, but it worked just fine on the LiveCD and on first boot. So perhaps if you just continue with install, it'll work like mine did.

Does the card work in the LiveCD?

Hanna · 2010-03-22 14:22:37

blackbinary wrote:

Hanna wrote:
Then it was not able to configure network automatically
NETWORK AUTOCONFIGURATION FAILED
your network is proably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly.
continue
So I continue and it gives different options like trying again, not doing anything or doing it manually.
I decided that I will not do it because I do not know how to config it manually. I know nothing about network configuration, I just know I have wireless and external card thing (d link... oh now I found the slash, I wonder where hyphen is) and i know the name of the network thing when I choose it from network manager and I know the password.
Actually Hanna, you might want to try selecting 'do not configure network now', and proceeding with the install.
The CD has all the latest packages on it, and I found for my wireless card, it could not be setup during install, but it worked just fine on the LiveCD and on first boot. So perhaps if you just continue with install, it'll work like mine did.
Does the card work in the LiveCD?

It does work with LiveCD *well live usb in my case. My cd drive does not really work. I will try again.

FiniteStateMachine · 2010-03-22 14:33:47

Hanna wrote:

It does work with LiveCD *well live usb in my case. My cd drive does not really work. I will try again.

Let us know how it goes smile
And LiveCD is just a generic term tongue I use USB all the time too (more out of convenience)

Hanna · 2010-03-22 14:40:34

blackbinary wrote:

Hanna wrote:
It does work with LiveCD *well live usb in my case. My cd drive does not really work. I will try again.
Let us know how it goes
And LiveCD is just a generic term I use USB all the time too (more out of convenience)

Did not work. And well my old install doesn't work either so... I'm downloading karmic koala just in case. I have installed debian once and I had no problems with that, but then I think it was the Debian's graphical installer. Oh well.

stopie · 2010-03-22 15:02:26

@ HANNA: you try making the live-usb with the 'dd' command as per the wiki?

Hanna · 2010-03-22 15:14:38

stopie wrote:

@ HANNA: you try making the live-usb with the 'dd' command as per the wiki?

Yes, I tried with unetbootin first but it didn't work so I made it with dd.

Kuno · 2010-03-22 17:29:54

@Hanna: This usb-install seems to be a thing of luck or not. Just tried to install on my office desktop from the same stick, that worked perfectly last night installing on my eeepc. Now on the desktop, network was configured automatically, but then I got the same error than you: failure after that partitioning stage. Trying to remount the stick from shell did not help. I'll go for the CD tomorrow.. sad

Hanna · 2010-03-22 18:30:45

^I ended up installing Xubuntu because I needed any os (I got GRUB 15 Error), might try with cd later (had to go buy empty cds, because only linux cd I found was for Arch and I definitely wasn't in mood for Arch tongue ).

toor58 · 2010-03-22 19:37:27

Well I tried. Just going to have to wait for the next release. Thanks Kuno for the "sdd" help. it didn't work. Actually, it made the USB some strangely formatted thing. It had a black unknown color in gparted!

I don't see any reason for apologies, Corenominal. It is alpha software. I have no problem waiting. After the polish of #! 9.04.01, I know that #! 10 will be an excellent piece of work.

Thanks for the help everyone. Hay someone post some pics so a po' soul can have a look and drool, how bout it.

Cheers,

Michael

iggykoopa · 2010-03-22 19:51:57

I think I'll wait for the next release also, the dd and unetbootin methods both worked up until the installing grub portion, then failed. It may have been a bad download, I didn't bother to check the md5. I have finals next week though so don't really have time to play around now. Great work though Core, the livecd is excellent.

Toolz · 2010-03-23 14:00:28

Toolz wrote:

... so I suppose I'll try following the instructions in the wiki (ie using dd) then.
(Just completed Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Statler OB after 24 hours waiting ...)
Sounds like Unetbootin does't work. Anybody tried any of the following?
http://multicd.tuxfamily.org/
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal- … -as-1-2-3/
http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
If I have no joy with dd I'll see how one of those goes.

I spent considerable time checking out the different methods of installing Statler on two machines and here are my results. The two machines were an Eee netbook and an oldish HP laptop that's quite Linux-hostile at times.

I read several comments stating that Unetbootin was no-go so I began with the wiki instruction - dd'ing to my 2GB micro SD card. All seemed well - it ran 'live' in both machines then I installed it to the Eee - stopping to direct it to dev/sdc as per the wiki instuction. I though this was easy peasy - then I reminded myself that no, it was a Statler alpha - and I fell back down to earth when I tried to install on the HP - it comes to the 'Detect and mount CD-ROM' screen and after choosing 'no' it jumps straight to the 'Installation step failed' screen.

So, still ignoring Unetbootin, I went on a quest to hunt for a perfect solution. First stop, MultiCD. Ran the script, then used ... erm, Unetbootin ... and I got as far as the point where it failed on the HP - same problem, both laptops.

I looked over the Pendrivelinux tool - decided it wasn't going to work.

Installed the PortableLinux deb. You have to go to all the trouble of running it for it to tell you that it only runs with Ubuntu or Knoppix.

Then I tried the LiliUSB program - I really thought this had solved it, it got to the point where I entered /dev/sdc and then it totally surprised me by failing.

It was at this point where I recalled the advice to add cdrom-detect/try-usb=true to the bootloader options. This was just as I'd fired Unetbootin up. I knew things were looking good when it asked for the language to use and then at the CD-ROM stage it started loading drivers. Success. Tried again on the Eee - success! It also ran in 'live' mode flawlessly on both machines - however this isn't the default option - possibly the only drawback of this method.

So based on my experience I'd say use Unetbootin with 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' boot option (you press TAB after choosing your selection in the boot menu). Unetbootin has the advantage of running on 'both' smile operating systems and it's all GUI, point-and-clicky ... we know how command-line voodoo gets some folk *really* riled! wink

(BTW I was using the latest Unetbootin - download the binary or use the 'gezakovacs' PPA.)

I imagine this is easy to fix for the next alpha - without resorting to those .img builds. A fix to make 'live' the default when using Unetbootin should be just as trivial, I hope.

I'll go back and try that MultiCD script now, in conjunction with the magic bootloader script - it looks useful.

Toolz · 2010-03-23 14:01:34

Vantskruv wrote:

I had the same problem as you, but solved it by choosing the option "Start terminal" (I'm translating from swedish, so I don't know exactly the name, but the option is placed above the "Abort installation entry" in the Debian installation-program.
From the terminal I did mount /dev/sda to the /cdrom folder:
mount /dev/sda /cdrom
then returned to the debian installation-program by writing:
exit
in the terminal.
Edit: As is it not so obvious, this comment is about the installer not finding the cdrom when installing from USB.

This looks interesting. I never thought to try that.

Tree Bito · 2010-03-24 12:56:38

My USB install was very interesting.
I did not experience any sort of mounting issue; the installer ran normally until the GRUB screen.
GRUB failed to install several times; but I was not too concerned; I booted into Ubuntu on another partition, and used update-grub2, which added CrunchBang to Ubuntu's GRUB menu.
When I booted into CrunchBang, I found that I could not log in; it seems the installer never actually created my account! Since the root account didn't have a password for me to log into it with, I had to reboot into single-user mode, and create my account from there.
After that reboot, I was all set, and CrunchBang works flawlessly! I've been very satisfied with it, I haven't used it on my laptop in a very long time.
I know very little about how making these install discs works; I can imagine it's quite difficult, especially with the dual live environment/text installer setup. Best of luck with trying to make a dedicated USB image, Phillip, I'm excited to see where CrunchBang goes from here!

Kuno · 2010-03-24 14:43:01

Tree Bito wrote:

When I booted into CrunchBang, I found that I could not log in; it seems the installer never actually created my account!

Made the same observation, when one of my installs failed at the grub setup stage. . Looked at my statler partition from madbox - everything was there except grub and the user account.

Since the root account didn't have a password for me to log into it with, I had to reboot into single-user mode, and create my account from there.

Now that's an idea! Had i known this before, it would have saved me a CD... smile

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