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#1 2014-01-20 06:16:37

geighter
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Registered: 2014-01-03
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removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

subject line says it all,
am trying to work on this 149 gb hdd that's plugged into a Quick Drive box w/ a USB
- and it just doesn't show up in #! or ubuntu 12.04
- but I restart back into windows 7, it shows right up and I can do whatever
I looked a little thru synaptic but didn't notice (or know for sure) of a driver that would help
- and I looked a little thru Search, and I will look some more,
Where am I missing which way to approach making this work?


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#2 2014-01-20 08:00:11

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

hang on - do you mean it doesn't show up on the desktop? (because it won't) or you can't see it in thunar, the file manager?
on the left hand pane? might be grey click on it to mount it...
otherwise these instructions might help;

reboot into #! (or ubuntu same difference) DON'T plug your hdd in.
open a terminal;

dmesg | tail

plug in your hdd,

dmesg | tail

see anything looking a bit like this? (this is just my flash disk)

[95641.321588] usb-storage 2-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[95641.323199] scsi9 : usb-storage 2-3:1.0
[95642.361826] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USB 2.0  FLASH DISK       PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[95642.364630] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0

if so then proceed.

sudo blkid

should give you something like this, but more hdd like;

/dev/sdb1: LABEL="CDROM" TYPE="iso9660"

if it get that far you should be able to mount it.

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#3 2014-01-20 13:34:24

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

had to leave right away for work y-day.
anyway,

1st) dmesg | tail

----------------------
[ 2863.063596] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[ 2863.063609] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 2876.428186] usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
[ 2876.599342] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04ce, idProduct=0002
[ 2876.599361] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[ 2876.599376] usb 3-1: Product: ScanLogic USBIDE
[ 2876.599387] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: ScanLogic USBIDE
[ 2915.052950] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[ 2915.055181] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[ 2915.055195] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
----------------------

usb 3-1 --> yes, that's the one I'm trying to get mounted

So, at:
2nd)  dmesg | tail

----------------------
/dev/sda1: LABEL="System Reserved" UUID="3278E7B878E778CD" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda2: LABEL="win7u" UUID="707CF0047CEFC2C8" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda6: LABEL="u-12.04" UUID="8c74ad54-bc70-4fb7-b211-f411de5d7b45" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda7: UUID="e5cf3619-b7e9-47eb-b11d-0a781ee1a3a3" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" LABEL="u-10.04"
/dev/sda3: UUID="32b84a91-af3e-48ad-b009-bccfe597f186" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda5: LABEL="#!" UUID="19ac497d-3888-441d-8b83-108a7c7635e3" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda8: LABEL="Demo" UUID="5dc98244-3d8c-4577-9cc9-d181c86f1d41" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
----------------------

all of these drives I see on the left plane and I can easily mount & access

Another question I left out tho,
Is this Quick Drive device user friendly only for Windows?
Win7 loads up drivers right away & it's accessable.
(Oh! and sometimes, out here on this small ranch, wifi is poor reception or none,
so I don't always get good browse times)

Last edited by geighter (2014-01-22 15:45:34)


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#4 2014-01-22 15:50:28

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

trying to repost this subject query,
usb 3-1 --> yes, that's the one I'm trying to get mounted

which way to approach mounting this usb drive?


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#5 2014-01-22 16:47:01

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

hi geighter,

your external drive does not seem to show up with the blkid command...
some questions: how is it formatted (fat32, ntfs, ext3...)? is it recognised by gparted (there is a drop-down menu in the upper-right corner of the UI to switch to different drives)?


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#6 2014-01-22 18:41:55

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

It looks like the USB drive is attached recognized by the kernel, and assigned /dev/sdb...
So you should be able to view the USB drive partition information by:

sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb

And mount it manually by:

sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

And access it read only [if a regular user] or r/w [if root]:

ls /mnt

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#7 2014-01-23 03:29:19

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

->VDP76 Wrote:
->your external drive does not seem to show up with the blkid command...
->some questions: how is it formatted (fat32, ntfs, ext3...)?

It's ntsf; winXP is on it. I want it gone.
I need gparted to  reformat it (some to) fat 32 and rest to ext3

->is it recognised by gparted
no.
I only see the drives listed above.

And then-->
->retf Wrote:   
->It looks like the USB drive is attached recognized by the kernel,
-> and assigned /dev/sdb...
->So you should be able to view the USB drive partition information by:

->>sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Where-upon I got this:
crunchy@crunchy:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
...and got command line again...
then tried
->>sudo fdisk -l
and got this:

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xa8971d0b

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2          206848   156712959    78253056    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       304175104   312580095     4202496   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda4       156715006   302125055    72705025    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       222259275   243148799    10444762+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6       156715008   222259199    32772096   83  Linux
/dev/sda7       263219200   302125055    19452928   83  Linux
/dev/sda8       243152896   263213055    10030080   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

...>>>...oooops, forgot to plug in Quick Drive device
and then:

crunchy@crunchy:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
crunchy@crunchy:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/
last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
crunchy@crunchy:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev
last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
crunchy@crunchy:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb/
crunchy@crunchy:~$

Right now, I am where I am at.

->And mount it manually by:
->>sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
->And access it read only [if a regular user] or r/w [if root]:
->>ls /mnt

won't help yet

(( Oh, and Win7 Properties show only 149gb))
That's part of what gets me,
It shows up un Windows, but not in linux
and, duh, Windows isn't any help
So, please.

Last edited by geighter (2014-01-23 03:49:57)


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#8 2014-01-23 03:55:04

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

Have you tried using Windows' Disk Management to delete the entire partition and then recreate the partition and format?

If you don't know where to find it, you can just run diskmgmt.msc

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#9 2014-01-23 04:20:10

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

-> anonymous
->Have you tried using Windows' Disk Management to delete the entire partition and then recreate the partition and format?

If'n I use WDN, won't I be left w/ a ntfs drive? that> i do not want.
but, too, I still want to be able to use this Quick Drive for other drives later on.
I didn't leave Windows. Windows left me!


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#10 2014-01-23 04:25:36

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

This is just to see if the drive can become visible to Linux. Once the drive works under Linux, you can repartition and reformat the drive however you like.

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#11 2014-01-23 05:13:51

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

Thanks anonymous, but;

-> anonymous
->This is just to see if the drive can become visible to Linux.
->Once the drive works under Linux, you can repartition and reformat the drive however you like.

and, but, again:
please,
That's part of what gets me,
It shows up in Windows7, but not in linux!
"won't I be left w/ a ntfs drive? that> i do not want!"
and, duh, Windows isn't any help

settle me down,
i do yet understand enough about Linux, CLI, etc
to find my way thru the matrique maze.
matrique==> is/could that be a word?


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#12 2014-01-23 05:15:32

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

I know that your drive works under Windows but not Linux; that's why I suggested you delete/repartition it under Windows. I am trying to help you get it working under Linux.

Last edited by anonymous (2014-01-23 05:16:19)

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#13 2014-01-23 05:41:56

geighter
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

umgh, ok, I'll try that then, since you put it that way
enough now. in a while, get up early and try that,
let y'all know later; 'morrow might be busy.
thanks


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#14 2014-01-23 05:47:54

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

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#15 2014-01-23 09:37:09

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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

geighter wrote:

->is it recognised by gparted
no.
I only see the drives listed above.

forgive the insistence, it is just to make sure we are on the same page...when you open gparted it is going to show the partitions belonging to your first drive (/dev/sda), if you want to see the partitions of other drives you have to click on the drop-down menu circled in this image (it is a random image found online, but it serves its purpose)
http://kimbriggs.com/images/computers/g … 44x300.jpg

anyway, anonymous is advising you well, I would have also recommended to try formatting the drive in windowz...

on a side note, please, use the appropriate tags when posting, i.e. [ code ] tags for commands and output and [ quote ] tags for, well, quotes, it would also spare you the time needed to add all those -> ...
you can find useful helpers for these tags right above the text input box, they look like:
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#16 2014-01-23 12:04:04

retf
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Re: removable harddrive doesn't show up in #! - but it does in windows

From the

dmesg |tail

outputs you listed, there are two separate drives:
in the first there's a 'dev/sdb'  and in the second there's a 'dev/sda'

The /dev/sda is your regular hard drive.
The /dev/sdb is something else, so either you had another USB drive plugged in at the time you issued the first command - or you reversed the order of operations.  This is what I had suspected, so thus my post about the USB Quick Drive being 'seen' by the Linux kernel.

I'm not familiar with the Quick Drive, so is this approximately the device we are talking about?
http://askubuntu.com/questions/184076/w … apter-work

I understand you might not be too familiar with the command line, but I'm sure things can be figured out if you are patient with the forums and the seemingly odd information requests.

Just a few notes on supportable filesystems:
There should be no problem with Linux using NTFS, FAT16, or FAT32.  So if the drive somehow needs to be repartitioned and reformatted using Windows, there should be no problem using it in a Linux environment.

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