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#1 2013-10-19 18:16:55

Malice
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From: Poland
Registered: 2013-10-15
Posts: 49

Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

As I am trying to set up steam, I have failed few times ending up with my linux broken and having to reinstall it.

I am running #! Waldorf stable, amd-64.
I am kind of new, so please, no fancy words or such.

I did as this website said:
Website I'm talking about
And before, I did kinda the same thing. Both  times #! wouldn't load.
I can't really recall error message(sorry!), but it said something about hardware not responding. On the second boot, #! would look like it loaded, but without GUI or anything related. I could use console, but as I am definitely not knowing my way around CLI, so well...

I would like to play games on steam(and use steam), but this kind of things gets in my way and makes me sad. Is there ANY way I could get steam working without any trouble?

PS. Just before going on #!, I tried Ubuntu 12.10, and got the same problem - if I installed latest nVidia drivers, I had to reinstall ubuntu.

Last edited by Malice (2013-10-19 18:24:45)

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#2 2013-10-19 18:37:53

mynis01
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From: 127.0.0.1
Registered: 2010-07-02
Posts: 1,963

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

Before anyone helps you with any in-depth troubleshooting, it would be helpful if you could please open up a terminal and run the command "lspci" and give us the output here so we can figure out what video card you have. It's possible if it's an older card that it requires some kind of legacy driver.

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#3 2013-10-19 18:41:03

slowgraffiti
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Registered: 2013-01-04
Posts: 13

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

i just downloaded the installer from here:
https://github.com/GhostSquad57/Steam-I … for-Wheezy

unziped it, right clicked on it, went to open with package manager, then insalledand it works.
maybe give that a go?

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#4 2013-10-19 18:44:54

Malice
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From: Poland
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Posts: 49

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

@slowgrafitti - yeah, but dependencies are not satisfied, and it wants me to do like the exactly the thing that (I suppose) is the problem - getting newest nVidia drivers.

@mynis01 - thank you for your time. Could you please tell me either the line you want, or some command to write in console so I can write it to file and upload it? Because there's quite a lot to copy.

Edit: is it what you wanted?

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT200 [GeForce GTX 260] (rev a1)
04:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb (rev 04)

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#5 2013-10-20 03:07:07

mynis01
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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

Malice wrote:

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Edit: is it what you wanted?

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT200 [GeForce GTX 260] (rev a1)
04:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb (rev 04)

Well that at least rules out you needing some kind of legacy driver, the newest drivers should work on that card. I would suggest just getting the installer from the nvidia site and trying that, or using smxi to automate the installation. There's plenty of guides around the web on how to do that from the command line too, if you aren't able to get into a graphical environment where you're more comfortable.

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#6 2013-10-20 03:50:22

rabidfox
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Registered: 2010-09-22
Posts: 116

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

I think there is something funny with them.  I made a fresh install on my box today, and it works out of the box, but once I update if I restart then I get a black screen with X11's X cursor, which moves around while nothing else responds.

lspci says:
NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650]

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#7 2013-10-20 04:52:23

chillicampari
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Registered: 2009-10-09
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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

rabidfox, are you talking about updating just the Nvidia drivers or did you try to do a system update using the welcome script today? If it's the latter the #! repository is down (see my sig for details).


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#8 2013-10-20 06:28:59

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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

rabidfox wrote:

I think there is something funny with them.  I made a fresh install on my box today, and it works out of the box, but once I update if I restart then I get a black screen with X11's X cursor, which moves around while nothing else responds.

lspci says:
NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650]

I used smxi to update the driver for my 670 card a few hours ago. No problems here


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#9 2013-10-20 06:29:44

mynis01
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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

chillicampari wrote:

rabidfox, are you talking about updating just the Nvidia drivers or did you try to do a system update using the welcome script today? If it's the latter the #! repository is down (see my sig for details).

If the default install in waldorf or the repos have some custom compiled xorg/X11 or video driver related packages, that would actually explain this problem to some extent. Honestly until that whole ddos issue gets resolved I would just comment out the #! repos in /etc/apt/sources.list, but that's just what I would do not necessarily a suggestion.

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#10 2013-10-20 06:45:23

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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

^They don't touch xorg/X11 as far as I know, but I think it can cause some problems that look like a video driver issue. In rabidfox's case it sounds like X itself is probably working but the desktop might be in a wonky state. It's not a bad idea to comment out the #! repo for a regular update for the Debian packages (it's the post fresh-install welcome script that's trickier do deal with right now).


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#11 2013-10-20 06:58:48

mynis01
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Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

It just occurred to me as well, you could try using the xorg/X11 packages from wheezy-backports too and see if that helps. What happens if you get to that terminal and try running the "startx" command?

Edit: also, you might find it useful to know how to record the output of a command to a text file. If you wanted to put the output of the command "lspci" into a text file called "hardware" in your home directory, you could do this:

lspci >> ~/hardware

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#12 2013-10-26 20:44:55

rabidfox
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Registered: 2010-09-22
Posts: 116

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

After last week I just held off on updating.  Looks like the servers are back up.  I selectively upgraded about half of what apt suggested.  Do you think it's safe to normally dist-upgrade the xorg stuff, or has nothing really changed?


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#13 2013-10-26 20:54:38

rabidfox
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Registered: 2010-09-22
Posts: 116

Re: Are the newest Nvidia drivers broken?

I upgraded everything to make #! up to date except these:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libx11-6 libx11-data libx11-xcb1 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-dri2-0 libxcb-glx0
  libxcb-randr0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xfixes0
  libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 libxcursor1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxi6 libxinerama1
  libxml2 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxres1 libxt6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxvmc1
  libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 linux-libc-dev x11-common xorg xserver-common
  xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome

And things are okay right now, after a reboot.  So if the problem still exists, it's in there.

Last edited by rabidfox (2013-10-26 20:55:16)


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