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#2076 2013-02-18 22:03:20

ew
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-09-27
Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

snowpine wrote:

Debian Wheezy (gnome desktop) was just too buggy for me so I distro hopped over to Mint last week. Finally a distro that "just works;" I am ecstatic! smile

Why Mint? Ubuntu 12.10 just works, and even with Unity it`s a lot faster than Mint regardless gui and wm. Mint is terribly slow, and by default it`s looking very dull and boring...


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#2077 2013-02-18 22:34:27

snowpine
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ ok


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#2078 2013-02-18 22:43:24

ivanovnegro
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From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,426

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Yes Snowy tell us why you use Mint, it is so horrible! Under the hood it is Ubuntu but yes tell us.

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#2079 2013-02-18 22:51:31

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,920

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Ubuntu was my first distro and I like it. Mint has good stuff like nvidia support and flash preinstalled so it's quick to set up. However, per ew's advice, I am junking it and going to vanilla Ubuntu/Unity! smile


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#2080 2013-02-19 00:25:13

ivanovnegro
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Good move, Unity is great!!

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#2081 2013-02-19 02:50:56

vrkalak
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From: Las Vegas > US
Registered: 2009-09-14
Posts: 1,552

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Or stick with the Xfce DE and go with Xubuntu


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#2082 2013-02-19 06:17:47

intoCB
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Registered: 2012-10-25
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

You just tick the box during installation for Flash support. Be careful with the graphics driver. Last time I checked (10 days ago) the "kernel headers generic missing" problem was still there. And of course, you'll need medibuntu for ... oh wait you're in the US and aren't allowed libdvdcss2 anyway.

Maybe you want to keep the shopping lens. Maybe you don't. However, you will speed up performance if you ditch it.


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#2083 2013-02-19 14:06:16

snowpine
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I went on Ubuntu Forums and some guy said Ubuntu was bloated, so I've decided to stick with Mint Xfce.

Actually the real reason I installed Mint is simply that it's currently the #1 distro and I've never tried it. smile


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#2084 2013-02-19 14:10:39

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I run Mint because of it's theme on one of my PCs (yes... I know it's not much different than Ubuntu).  It has a little bit more "je ne sais quoi" (pun intended) over Ubuntu.  I run #! because of it's performance.  There is a reason that distrowatch has 100 distros (an more on the waiting list)
-Hinto


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#2085 2013-02-19 14:19:37

intoCB
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Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 1,925

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Actually the Mint #1 spot is debatable. If you include Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Ubuntu Studio etc. you get to about the same on Distrowatch as Mint. And then if you look Wikipedia and Google's usage/interest data, Mint is lower than Ubuntu. But it doesn't stop people saying it :-(


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#2086 2013-02-19 14:30:36

snowpine
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

It is #1 in my heart (awwww  kiss).


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#2087 2013-02-19 14:34:10

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,920

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Also interesting to note that Ubuntu's down to #3 at distrowatch....
(Mageia is currently #2)


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#2088 2013-02-19 14:44:19

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,398

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^distros are like wine... there's a vintage for every taste.  (Wonder which one would be classified as "Mad Dog")
-H


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#2089 2013-02-19 15:44:44

pvsage
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2009-10-18
Posts: 12,283

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Looks like "maddog" is already taken. cool


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#2090 2013-02-19 15:47:10

intoCB
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Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 1,925

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Mageia's a great little distro but it isn't quite as popular as the Distrowatch rankings suggest.

Anyway:

The past 6 months on Distrowatch:

  • Mint (cinnamon, MATE, Xfce, KDE and including LMDE MATE cinnamon or Xfce): 3667

  • Ubuntu (Unity, Xfce, LXDE, KDE, Xfce studio version): 3598

So if we factor out the LMDE from Mint, I'd say they were level pegging on Distrowatch. But then who cares about the facts. Certainly not ZDnet and consorts.


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#2091 2013-02-19 15:55:37

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,398

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

pvsage wrote:

^ Looks like "maddog" is already taken. cool

wink
As I digress.... check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhL9px_DwzQ
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2092 2013-02-19 23:11:50

ew
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Registered: 2012-09-27
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I don`t see why anyone would choose Mint because of the theme. It`s a hazzle to get rid of all that ugly white and green stuff. It gets a bit better with a black wallpaper with some mint leafs, and a dark gtk theme. But still, it will always be slow. Very slow.

As for choosing xubuntu/lubuntu instead of Ubuntu, it`s really taking away the best with Ubuntu, and that is Unity and Dash. It`s simply wonderful, and relatively fast with any hardware that isn`t more than 5-6 years old. Running Ubuntu with XFCE is pointless. If you need a lightweight-distro, then choose one. Instead of messing up Ubuntu:)

Peppermint Three is ubuntu-based, and comes now with a new respin-release with 3.2 kernel, and that would be a clear first choice for a lightweight ubuntu-based distro. But that`s just me.

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#2093 2013-02-20 00:47:09

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,398

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^I'm going to drink my wine.
-H


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#2094 2013-02-20 02:59:45

zalew
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From: Warsaw, .PL
Registered: 2012-03-28
Posts: 374

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

ew wrote:

As for choosing xubuntu/lubuntu instead of Ubuntu, it`s really taking away the best with Ubuntu, and that is Unity and Dash.

[caugh! caugh!]

ew wrote:

Running Ubuntu with XFCE is pointless. If you need a lightweight-distro, then choose one. Instead of messing up Ubuntu:

and if I like how XFCE works, but I don't care about its performance, can I use it?

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#2095 2013-02-20 12:09:09

ew
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Sure, but then I don`t see what buntu has to offer, that you don`t get with every other distro out there:)


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#2096 2013-02-20 12:50:02

intoCB
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Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 1,925

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

It's quite classy in a high street consumer kind of way. Plus the studio fonts package is very complete, font rendering is excellent and the whole thing feels designed. The software center is well done and you have the option to buy software.

The whole bloated thing is a fallacy. This has been proven again and again and it was even said in the "good old days". On any type of bloat metric, I can prove to you that another distro thought of as lighter is slower to boot, has a larger iso, has more software etc. etc. Some people just enjoy saying Ubuntu is bloated. Coz like yr sockin it to the man, man, when you bash Ubuntu.

In fact, as a matter of principle, I'm now going to install Ubuntu and have a rollocking good time with what in spite of the unity shopping lens is still a stable, polished, complete and user-friendly distro on which you can do pretty much anything you want.


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#2097 2013-02-20 13:28:49

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,398

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ any distro based on Ubuntu benefits from this, too.  It then boils down to out-of-the box (ie, themes)
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2098 2013-02-20 13:40:55

spurdo
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Registered: 2013-02-17
Posts: 12

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

intoCB wrote:

It's quite classy in a high street consumer kind of way. Plus the studio fonts package is very complete, font rendering is excellent and the whole thing feels designed. The software center is well done and you have the option to buy software.

The whole bloated thing is a fallacy. This has been proven again and again and it was even said in the "good old days". On any type of bloat metric, I can prove to you that another distro thought of as lighter is slower to boot, has a larger iso, has more software etc. etc. Some people just enjoy saying Ubuntu is bloated. Coz like yr sockin it to the man, man, when you bash Ubuntu.

In fact, as a matter of principle, I'm now going to install Ubuntu and have a rollocking good time with what in spite of the unity shopping lens is still a stable, polished, complete and user-friendly distro on which you can do pretty much anything you want.

enjoy your data being shared with companies. ubuntu being bloated is a fact,it is one of the slowest distros  i've ever tried.
i loved ubuntu,enjoyed their services very much,but when they got popular they instantly adopted microsoft mindset.

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#2099 2013-02-20 14:29:57

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,920

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Ubuntu fits on a single DVD and takes up less than 1% of the average 1TB hard drive; how can you possibly call that "bloated" by 2013 standards, LOL! (Need I point out that #! also no longer fits on a CD?)

To deny Ubuntu is to deny #!'s roots (heresy!). In fact I think papanomial should strongly consider switching #! back to Ubuntu, it would help solve the common issues of "I need support for hardware X" and "I need a newer version of application Y." wink

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#2100 2013-02-20 14:36:01

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,398

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

If #! switched back to Ubuntu, then it would be like 85% of the other distros on Distrowatch. (except for the forums)
I came to #! because it switched to Debian.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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