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#1 2013-01-12 09:42:48

ohnonot
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How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

in the last year i deepened my computer knowledge.
however everything related to networking is totally far out for me.
i think one reason for that is: i've been using mobile broadband for years. whenever i start reading about networking, it says "your router" and my mind just fills up with a huge question mark.
i'm trying to bridge the gap.
i want to find out some things about mobile broadband privacy, security, customization.

things i've noticed:
- in transmiision, my ports are always closed.
- i'm trying to tunnel part of my netwaork traffic and there seem to be difficulties.

i would like to take a positive thinking approach in this thread.
so instead of saying: mobile broadband providers suck,
i would like to hear sth like: mobile broadband providers suck, but you can do this and that to achieve at least partial freedom.

any input appreciated!

d.

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#2 2013-01-12 10:43:26

NicePics13
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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

This being Finland with at least four 3G providers.

[THE GOOD]

  • You can download as fast as the hardware allows you to

  • Good coverage

  • Cheap monthly fee

[THE BAD]

  • Data caps with penalties

  • Slow upload, not very democratic

  • Too many users (2.5 million and rising)

[THE UGLY]

  • Wireless security?

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#3 2013-01-12 15:22:01

ohnonot
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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

moikka!
living in finland myself, ha, is that a coincidence?
but could you elaborate on these, please:

You can download as fast as the hardware allows you to
Data caps with penalties
Slow upload, not very democratic
Wireless security?

- especially the last one.
personally i am with dna.

about this:

Too many users (2.5 million and rising)

i can only say, yes, it's scary.
i have a contract to "always surf with max possible speed". i don't live in helsinki and have no problem with it (i mean with the bandwidth) but when i take my laptop to my girlfriends - who lives in helsinki, quite central - i can hardly surf at all anymore. network overload. only late at night it gets better. i don't want to think where this is going. scary.

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#4 2013-01-12 16:22:39

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

Whether its 3G or Wi-fi, you can always use a VPN for added security and privacy.


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#5 2013-01-15 09:31:09

NicePics13
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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

I'm seriously going back to ADSL even though there's only one provider in my neck of the woods, I'll just use a wireless router with.. what's it called.. Tomato?  big_smile

Yeah, last year dna changed their terms: raised their prices and added those pesky data caps. Upload speeds were always like 40-50kB/s regardless of what you payed.

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#6 2013-01-27 20:46:04

ohnonot
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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

@anonymous:
thanks for your advice! but doesn't vpn require i have access to a remote machine? which i haven't.

@nicepics13:
can you elaborate what happened there with dna?
i am noticing a decrease in bandwidth here in my own home, too. not only in the evenings.

also,
it seems to be getting much worse when i use amule. i don't use it often. it does not use much bandwidth but still the browser starts jamming and it gets better only when i quit amule. is this some kind of punishment for using "potentially illegal" software?

what's happening there? (in laymans terms please?)

should i switch to a line connection? i guess that's what you mean with adsl. any tips? basically i just want to spend as little money as possible and get steady bandwidth (not necessarily more, but more reliable) and "freedom" to configure my network connections as i wish.
i have the plug here at home and some previous tenant had internet here.

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#7 2013-01-27 20:57:36

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

ohnonot wrote:

@anonymous:
thanks for your advice! but doesn't vpn require i have access to a remote machine? which i haven't.

Yes however you can also subscribe to a VPN service and connect through them.

ohnonot wrote:

it seems to be getting much worse when i use amule. i don't use it often. it does not use much bandwidth but still the browser starts jamming and it gets better only when i quit amule. is this some kind of punishment for using "potentially illegal" software?

Maybe look into traffic shaping and the program Trickle.

ohnonot wrote:

should i switch to a line connection? i guess that's what you mean with adsl. any tips? basically i just want to spend as little money as possible and get steady bandwidth (not necessarily more, but more reliable) and "freedom" to configure my network connections as i wish.

A wired connection is generally far more steady than wireless. Its a trade off.


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#8 2013-02-02 10:19:45

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

anonymous wrote:

Yes however you can also subscribe to a VPN service and connect through them.
Maybe look into traffic shaping and the program Trickle.
A wired connection is generally far more steady than wireless. Its a trade off.

thanks anonymous. i tried setting up a tunneling connection but got stuck here - i fear it will be exactly the same with vpn. anyhow i could not find a free service yet....
about trickle: both amule and transmission allow for bandwidth limitations, upload and download. why would i need trickle?
probably not important, but what do you mean with "it's a trade off" exactly?

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#9 2013-02-02 15:34:24

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

ohnonot wrote:

about trickle: both amule and transmission allow for bandwidth limitations, upload and download. why would i need trickle?

iirc, traffic shaping is not about bandwidth limitation but rather it prioritizes certain traffic (ex. VoIP) over another (ex. P2P)

ohnonot wrote:

probably not important, but what do you mean with "it's a trade off" exactly?

Wireless connections are good when you need access away from your home (a friend's house, a coffee shop, etc) or you have a mobile device you like to move around the house. With wi-fi, you just need to find a network and with 3G/4G, you just need to be inside the area of coverage. However wireless signal strength and latency is not the best.

Now with a wired connection, you are limited to being near the modem/router or an RJ45 jack. If you are at home, this is no problem. In exchange, the connection is more reliable and they is less latency.


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#10 2013-02-02 16:31:44

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

ok, thanks anonymous.

@nicepics13 (or other finns):
i heard from a friend that changing to a line connection doesn't help that much; she also has the typical problem that for example on saturday night she can't browse smoothly. network overload.
can you confirm that? does it depend on the provider or type of contract?

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#11 2013-02-03 01:42:45

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

I believe network congestion can be a problem for cable internet but not DSL.


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#12 2013-02-03 08:31:20

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Re: How Good/Bad In/Secure is Mobile Broadband?

...more to read up for the networking noob.

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