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#1 2013-01-08 00:50:37

Estuchedepeluche
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new and undereducated

Hello, fellow #! users.

I have an asus eeePC from the ice age and a good friend had the great sense of erasing the factory old linux and install #! about 2 years ago. I thought I was going to retire that computer but the change worked perfectly, then online programs and applications started to get more complicated for the system to handle them. I can't update Firefox or install Crome, the system is too old and tired for them.

I need an update on the OS, but I am completely computer illiterate, I don't know if I should completely wipe the old stuff and start new, or do something else. I am not sure how to do any of those things either. I don't write code and I don't know much about computers in general, except that I used them a lot.

Can anyone offer advise?  Thanks.

-C.

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#2 2013-01-08 04:44:40

blitzchriz
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Re: new and undereducated

To update it do:

Sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Then...

sudo apt-get update

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#3 2013-01-08 06:55:39

pvsage
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Re: new and undereducated

^ Reverse the order of those two & it'll take care of your updates.  ("Update" updates the local DPKG database; "dist-upgrade" upgrades all currently-installed packages to the most recent version for that particular release of your distro.)


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#4 2013-01-08 20:55:25

Estuchedepeluche
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Re: new and undereducated

It seemed as if it was going to work, but I get an error message saying "unable to lock the list directory", so I am stalled. I would appreciate further help with this.
P.S. I tried changing the owner to my user name on this computer, but I don't have the permission to do that.

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#5 2013-01-09 01:07:59

otak
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Re: new and undereducated

Welcome to the forum estuchedepeluche.  I really like the sound of your username.

  Anyways, things don't go simply for you.  Some kinds of linux have a graphic click-on program for updating and installing while other kinds do not.  You won't have to write code though, the apt program is really thorough.  If a graphic update program like synaptic is open while you run the apt-get commands, that could cause the error you mentioned, so make sure no such program is running before you start.
  Just to be clear, I'm not sure whether you reversed the order of the commands, or the order of the words in the commands.  So, in the terminal program, you need to enter:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

If you get any errors, please paste the exact text.  Also we need to know which release of crunchbang you are using.  You can find out like this:

cat /etc/issue

  It's possible your version is so old that it is easier for you to start with a new install.
  One more thing which could cause problems is if your hard drive or memory card is full.  Let us see the output of:

df -h

  Also it would be a good idea to mention which model of eepc you have

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#6 2013-01-09 03:18:28

Estuchedepeluche
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Re: new and undereducated

Thanks a lot, the name

I tried both orders, each command resulted on

E: Could not open lock file /car/lib/apt/list/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory

The version I have is: Ubuntu 9.04
The machine has 1.9G of which 86M are available.
I have a few devices hooked for saving files: a SD card and USB memory.
The model is one of the early ones, the 2g surf, which does not take any memory extension so I am thinking that I might have to wipe it and reinstall the OS.
I only use a web browser, a PDF reader and Abiword to take notes, those are the only programs I really need on this little thing.
I would really appreciate if you could direct me to a tutorial or some other fix.

Again, thanks a lot.

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#7 2013-01-09 09:38:37

fatmac
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Registered: 2012-11-14
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Re: new and undereducated

Hi Estuchedepeluche.
For a non techie, probably best to do a fresh install, however, if you want to try upgrading :-

You need to check your /etc/apt/sources.list is up to date; this is mine :-

## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Wheezy, but use at your own risk.
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main
#deb-src http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

## DEBIAN
deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

Next run in a terminal :-
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

That should upgrade you to Waldorf/Wheezy.

If you want to do a fresh install, download the distro & put it onto a pendrive, check that it works as a live system, if all is well install it to your machine.

You might find this thread of interest also :-
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23168

Hope that helps you.


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#8 2013-01-09 09:59:42

pvsage
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Re: new and undereducated

Not so sure that Statler, when uncompressed, would be small enough to fit on his netbook's 1.9GB SSD...

@Estuchedepeluche: As much as I consider CrunchBang the best Linux out there, I'd suggest you trysomething with a smaller HD footprint like LinuxBBQ Proof or Puppy Linux; despite its reputation as a "lightweight" distro, CrunchBang is no bantamweight.


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#9 2013-01-09 10:53:20

fatmac
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Re: new and undereducated

In that case, AntiX is a good Debian based alternative; & there is also Slitaz, very small installation, not Debian based, but has a nice community behind it.


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Currently:  AntiX, & Crunchbang.
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#10 2013-01-09 14:43:42

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,924

Re: new and undereducated

SliTaz runs nicely on the EEE and only needs a few mb's of disk space.


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#11 2013-01-09 20:36:19

Estuchedepeluche
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Registered: 2013-01-08
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Re: new and undereducated

Thanks a lot to all you's fer ze help.
Quick question about list on sources, should I write the list in separate documents? one for cruchbang, one for debian and another for debian security? or all the text goes on one crunchbang list? (Sorry if I sound totally clueless, it is probably because I am.) Anyway, the sources list has 2 documents(.list) one for crunchbang and another for medibuntu

Thanks again.
C.

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#12 2013-01-14 20:35:34

KrunchTime
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Registered: 2012-03-02
Posts: 2,200

Re: new and undereducated

You might want to checkout Tiny Core Linux:  http://www.tinycorelinux.net/

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#13 2013-01-20 18:02:28

KrunchTime
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Registered: 2012-03-02
Posts: 2,200

Re: new and undereducated

Just came across this distro today:  UberStudent

Screenshot tour:  http://www.thecodingstudio.com/?linux&r … ightweight

Distro home:  http://uberstudent.org

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