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#1 2013-01-18 03:05:25
- shengchieh
- #! Junkie
- Registered: 2009-01-07
- Posts: 470
#! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
#! 11 seems to be significantly slower than #! 10 (I just installed yesterday). Is a process running that shouldn't be? Below is
my process list.
shengchieh@crunchbang:~$ ps -ef
UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
root 1 0 0 15:10 ? 00:00:01 init [2]
root 2 0 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [kthreadd]
root 3 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 6 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [migration/0]
root 7 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
root 8 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [cpuset]
root 9 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [khelper]
root 10 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [kdevtmpfs]
root 11 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [netns]
root 12 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [sync_supers]
root 13 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [bdi-default]
root 14 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [kintegrityd]
root 15 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd]
root 17 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [khungtaskd]
root 18 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:17 [kswapd0]
root 19 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [ksmd]
root 20 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [fsnotify_mark]
root 21 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [crypto]
root 100 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [khubd]
root 119 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [ata_sff]
root 123 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root 124 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root 177 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [jbd2/sda1-8]
root 178 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
root 307 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 udevd --daemon
root 418 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [kpsmoused]
root 445 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [cfg80211]
root 1570 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5
root 1592 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/slim -d
root 1602 1592 4 15:10 tty7 00:10:08 /usr/bin/X11/X -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/slim.auth vt07
root 1633 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
101 1650 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
avahi 1663 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: running [crunchbang.local]
avahi 1664 1663 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
root 1677 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
root 1685 2 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 [krfcommd]
root 1707 307 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 udevd --daemon
root 1710 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
colord 1712 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/colord/colord
colord 1716 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/colord/colord-sane
root 1800 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
root 1809 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
root 1821 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/modem-manager
ntp 1823 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:02 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 104:109
root 1837 1 0 15:10 ? 00:00:02 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /var/run/wpa_supplicant
root 1860 1800 0 15:10 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -4 -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.
root 1878 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/minissdpd -i 0.0.0.0
root 1886 1 0 15:11 tty1 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
root 1887 1 0 15:11 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
root 1888 1 0 15:11 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
root 1889 1 0 15:11 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
root 1890 1 0 15:11 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
root 1891 1 0 15:11 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
shengchieh 1938 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
root 1941 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
shengchieh 2014 1592 0 15:11 ? 00:00:04 /usr/bin/openbox --startup /usr/lib/openbox/openbox-autostart OP
shengchieh 2058 2014 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-se
shengchieh 2061 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
shengchieh 2062 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 8 --se
shengchieh 2072 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:01 tint2
shengchieh 2073 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 pnmixer
shengchieh 2076 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 thunar --daemon
shengchieh 2081 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:01 xscreensaver -no-splash
shengchieh 2082 1 0 15:11 ? 00:01:12 clipit
shengchieh 2093 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 xfce4-volumed
shengchieh 2094 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 xfce4-power-manager
shengchieh 2099 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
shengchieh 2101 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd
shengchieh 2102 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/system-config-printer-applet
shengchieh 2103 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:01 nm-applet
shengchieh 2108 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon -f /home/shengchieh/.gvfs
root 2110 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
shengchieh 2121 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
rtkit 2123 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
shengchieh 2166 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2
shengchieh 2174 1 0 15:11 ? 00:00:42 compton --vsync opengl
shengchieh 2285 1 0 15:11 ? 00:01:20 conky -q
root 2351 307 0 15:32 ? 00:00:00 udevd --daemon
root 2412 2 0 17:48 ? 00:00:00 [flush-8:0]
root 2437 2 0 18:05 ? 00:00:02 [kworker/0:2]
root 2453 2 0 18:11 ? 00:00:02 [kworker/0:0]
shengchieh 2674 1 0 18:16 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor
root 2677 1 0 18:16 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
root 2678 2677 0 18:16 ? 00:00:00 udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0
shengchieh 2681 1 0 18:16 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
shengchieh 2683 1 0 18:16 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
shengchieh 3118 2014 0 18:26 ? 00:00:03 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/obmenu
shengchieh 3119 2014 0 18:27 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/terminator
shengchieh 3122 3119 0 18:27 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper
shengchieh 3123 3119 0 18:27 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/bash
root 3311 2 0 18:40 ? 00:00:00 [kworker/0:3]
root 3312 2 0 18:40 ? 00:00:00 [kworker/u:1]
root 3425 2 0 18:50 ? 00:00:00 [kworker/u:2]
shengchieh 3427 2014 15 18:53 ? 00:00:24 iceweasel
shengchieh 3457 3123 0 18:56 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -efIs there any runaway process or is there something else slowing things down?
It's annoying to wait forever.
Sheng-Chieh
Last edited by shengchieh (2013-01-18 23:16:12)
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#2 2013-01-18 04:17:48
- moetunes
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- Registered: 2012-10-06
- Posts: 58
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
The easiest way to check is to open a terminal and run the program top and check the cpu column.
If you don't have much memory and the system keeps using swap could be another reason.
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#3 2013-01-18 05:05:36
- shengchieh
- #! Junkie
- Registered: 2009-01-07
- Posts: 470
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
Thank you for replying.
I took two snapshot of top
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1602 root 20 0 86440 6252 1440 R 16.0 2.5 13:56.53 Xorg
3427 shengchieh 20 0 398m 67m 14m S 14.2 28.0 3:01.50 iceweasel
3119 shengchieh 20 0 68644 7096 3384 S 2.9 2.9 0:07.01 /usr/bin/termin
2174 shengchieh 20 0 25300 440 276 S 1.6 0.2 0:55.84 compton
2285 shengchieh 20 0 51148 760 452 S 0.8 0.3 1:52.51 conky
2014 shengchieh 20 0 14816 2876 1252 S 0.3 1.2 0:05.39 openbox
2082 shengchieh 20 0 26812 1372 944 S 0.3 0.6 1:36.23 clipit
3582 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:01.02 kworker/0:1
1 root 20 0 2280 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.32 init
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1602 root 20 0 87064 6796 2036 S 21.4 2.8 14:09.17 Xorg
3427 shengchieh 20 0 398m 41m 7472 S 15.5 17.4 3:11.13 iceweasel
3119 shengchieh 20 0 68644 9.9m 4556 S 5.6 4.1 0:08.09 /usr/bin/termin
2174 shengchieh 20 0 25300 864 380 S 1.3 0.4 0:56.88 compton
2285 shengchieh 20 0 51148 756 452 S 0.7 0.3 1:52.92 conky
3603 shengchieh 20 0 4604 1356 996 R 0.7 0.6 0:00.42 top
2082 shengchieh 20 0 26812 1476 996 S 0.3 0.6 1:36.50 clipit
2683 shengchieh 20 0 19096 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.74 gvfs-afc-volume
3604 shengchieh 20 0 44312 15m 10m S 0.3 6.6 0:02.41 geany
1 root 20 0 2280 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.32 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.94 ksoftirqd/0 Do you people see anything fishy?
I only have 256 MB memory. When I install I thought #! defaulted to 492 MB (or something close to it) memory.
It is the same desktop I used for #! 10 which was much faster. #! 11 semms sluggish.
Btw, this is the second time I'm writing this. #! 11 just crashed on me
while writing the 1st time. That was the 2nd crash in 2 days - not a
good sign. I'm thinking of reversing back to #! 10 or try something else.
Sheng-Chieh
Tux's Links
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#4 2013-01-18 07:31:28
- moetunes
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- Registered: 2012-10-06
- Posts: 58
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
With only 256mB memory and using iceweasel there will be a fair amount of swapping going on. Do you have much swap available? What does free -m in a terminal return?
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#5 2013-01-18 11:47:37
- MidGe
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- Registered: 2012-05-27
- Posts: 24
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
Hi there,
It may be sheer coincidence but I experience a similar problem since about 5 hours ago. Even typing this is slow. There is a lag between the time I type and the letters appearing on the screen (only in Ice Weasel).
In my case it definitely is not a memory issue or a CPU issue. Idle show 100% or close (12 cores) and my memory (16Gb) use is around 10%.
I really wish I could easily get rid of IceWeasel and install Firefox. And, no, they are not the same thing... Close but not the same!
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#6 2013-01-18 17:50:43
- shengchieh
- #! Junkie
- Registered: 2009-01-07
- Posts: 470
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
moetunes,
$ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 240 236 3 0 6 131
-/+ buffers/cache: 99 141
Swap: 492 75 417I'm going try #! 11 non-PAE version 32 bits - I have #! 11 PAE 32 bits. There shouldn't be a reason why PAE won't work,
but it worth a shot.
Sheng-Chieh
Tux's Links
http://shengchieh.50webs.com/tuxslinks.html
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#7 2013-01-18 20:06:05
- moetunes
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- Registered: 2012-10-06
- Posts: 58
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
It doesn't seem to be using alot of swap so that's probably not it. Starting with a fresh browser profile might be worth a try. Nothing else comes to mind atm...
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#8 2013-01-18 23:15:13
- shengchieh
- #! Junkie
- Registered: 2009-01-07
- Posts: 470
Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
Clearing the browser configuration will not help. Everything was slow, e.g., terminal, install printer, etc.
I installed non-PAE version of #! 11 (wasn't much work since I hardly did anything w/ #! 11 PAE). Speed seems fine.
I'm surprised that PAE version didn't work for this desktop. I know the desktop is a dinosaur, but it is still a Pentium.
While this thread is resolved, I'm curious to understand what happened. My desktop hardware specs are
http://shengchieh.50webs.com/Desktoplshw.txt
http://shengchieh.50webs.com/Desktoplspci.txt (#! 10)
Can anyone explains why non-PAE #! 11 works fine, but not PAE #! 11.
Sheng-Chieh
Tux's Links
http://shengchieh.50webs.com/tuxslinks.html
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#9 2013-01-19 05:50:56
- MidGe
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- Registered: 2012-05-27
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Re: #! is slow; is process running? WORKAROUNDED, BUT WHY?
Having done a bit more digging, the issue seems to be JSON related.
An immediate workaround was to exit iceweasel, delete two JSON related files from the .mozilla profile folder, and re-start iceweasel. And, presto, iceweasel is back to speed without any ill-effects for the time being it seems.
The two files I deleted were: ".parentlock" and "webapps.json".
Do at your own risk as I am not ceratin about all implications of this move, but it sure beats a re-install of iceweasel, if not the whole OS. 
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