Hey~ so I just moved from Windows XP..

merelyjim · 2012-10-23 12:28:02

pvsage wrote:

^ This is true; however, it may come off as "Why do you want to do that? Do this instead." Kinda like a bicyclist asking for directions across town, and being told "Well, first you get on the interstate..."

Didn't mean for it to come out that way. Sorry, if it did.

R3nCi · 2012-10-26 18:52:07

merelyjim wrote:

Welcome to #!
I second all the good advice above, but might ad that after a fresh install, I make a back-up copy of any text-file I feel I have to monkey with... that way, when I screw something up (I always manage it somehow) I can fix it myself.

This is excellent advice, and should be followed when editing any kind of critical file - not just those relating to #! configuration.

Welcome to the world of Linux. When I first 'made the switch' to Ubuntu 10.10 from Windows 7, at about 6 p.m. on a Tuesday evening in late 2010, I spent that entire night playing with my new system, configuring things, breaking things, reinstalling things, asking for help, getting help, ....

That was a night well-spent. big_smile

pvsage · 2012-10-26 21:43:49

merelyjim wrote:

Didn't mean for it to come out that way. Sorry, if it did.

Just trying to avoid confusion & keep this community nice & friendly. big_smile

R3nCi wrote:

merelyjim wrote:
Welcome to #!
I second all the good advice above, but might ad that after a fresh install, I make a back-up copy of any text-file I feel I have to monkey with... that way, when I screw something up (I always manage it somehow) I can fix it myself.
This is excellent advice, and should be followed when editing any kind of critical file - not just those relating to #! configuration.

As for the config files, remember that there's always the copies in /etc/skel/ if you want to go back to Square One. Making backups of your tweaked configs before further tweaking is a great idea though. cool

dura · 2012-10-26 23:38:32

^ Fair enough. Why do you want bicycle directions when you can just take this taxi across town ... wink

Where I live this is a fairly common attitude... I only cycle

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pvsage · 2012-10-26 23:49:59

^ Same here, on both counts.

johnraff · 2012-10-27 17:25:34

SabreWolfy wrote:

johnraff wrote:
...I came from Windows 98 and that "lightbulb" moment came at about 6 months, but you might well be faster...
From 1998 to 2012? Almost 14 years? What caused the "moment"?

Er.., not quite. I switched to Linux in ~2005 when Microsoft dropped support for W98. The "moment" came about 6 months from then, when I suddenly realized that the software was on my side. smile

On Windows I always seemed to be trying to get round what the system, and apps, were trying to make me do.

el_koraco · 2012-10-27 17:37:40

Guys, both nano and vim have the option to make backups of any file you change. In vim, you need to change /etc/vi/vimrc and add

set backup
set backupdir=/home/yourusername/.vimbackup

Look in man nanorc or something for the same.

Neil · 2012-10-27 18:10:24

SabreWolfy wrote:

Hit Alt-F2. Type the name of the program. Hit enter.

Sorry about coming into the discussion so late, but I often see this offered as a reason why an auto updating menu isn't needed. I really miss having an auto updating menu. That was one of the things I really liked about the XFCE version of #! we had a while back (I'm sill using XFCE, BTW).

Anyway, sure, Alt-F2 is a faster way to open an app...when you know what app you want. Too much of the time, all I can recall is that "I have an app on here for that", but don't remember it's name. If I can pull up a well organized menu, a little searching locates the app I need.

It's probably just my age...I'm a ways past 50...and I get the feeling that most of you guys are teens with swift minds that want your OS to respond quickly. What I need is an OS that does things, and remembers things, for me.

Neil · 2012-10-27 18:12:37

Oh! And welcome to CrunchBang and the forums, hehsuss! See how forgetful I can be?

el_koraco · 2012-10-27 18:24:21

Neil wrote:

Anyway, sure, Alt-F2 is a faster way to open an app...when you know what app you want. Too much of the time, all I can recall is that "I have an app on here for that", but don't remember it's name. If I can pull up a well organized menu, a little searching locates the app I need.

There are numerous auto-updating menus. Even Debian's obmenu package makes a self-updating addition to the Openbox root menu.

Neil · 2012-10-27 18:31:52

Yeah, I tried the directions linked somewhere earlier in this thread...to the CrunchBang wiki, and couldn't get it to work.
Have not had the time to look into other alternatives, and just find that XFCE is easier for me for that reason. Someday, I might pursue other OB configurations, but not today. Just realized....an "Introductions" thread is not the place to discuss this anyway.

ohnonot · 2012-10-30 14:20:05

hello hehsuss!
i came from xp, too, about a year ago, first to ubuntu. but i had been using blackbox already on xp.
however your wants sound familiar.

i like the default menu on statler, but i added the self-updating debian menu, as well.
but, as you probably noticed already, it is "very well ordered into subcategories" and can be hard to use. good to have some important things close at hand yet still the possibility to view & access everything else, too.

[one thing about wanting a start button or always quick access to the menu.
in the menu go under settings->openbox and open the gui config tool. under the "Margin" tab you will see that there's a 1 pixel margin at the top of the screen - this has the effect that you can always hit your mouse pointer on the topedge of your screen, right click, and there's the menu!
this is just one example of the beauty, logic and simplicity of cb.]
edit: seems i'm wrong about this. i can right-click the tint2-bar anywhere where there's no icon, and get the menu. why the 1px margin then?

apart from that, you will need the terminal sometimes, and after a while, you will want it, too. you can get help on anything you know the name of by typing man name. so, man openbox. or man iceweasel, or man man.
or try top. or htop.

oh and btw, i like username jesus! i was holy on my first machine, but now i changed it to moly cool

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this one sums it up for me, too:

johnraff wrote:

I switched to Linux in ~2005 when Microsoft dropped support for W98. The "moment" came about 6 months from then, when I suddenly realized that the software was on my side.

big_smile

edit: you also asked about a clipboard manager plugin that can store images - on xfce4-panel i used clipman which has the option to store one image. maybe it works with tint, too?

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R3nCi · 2012-11-01 02:15:07

Neil wrote:

SabreWolfy wrote:
It's probably just my age...I'm a ways past 50...and I get the feeling that most of you guys are teens with swift minds that want your OS to respond quickly.

I'm a teenager, and I certainly appreciate automatically-updating menus. Age is irrelevant smile

merelyjim · 2012-11-01 02:40:11

^
Trust me; after 40 age becomes relevant. Oh, wait... you meant to a computer. lol

VastOne · 2012-11-01 02:54:09

^ merelyjim speaks truth... smile after 50 it really gets fuzzy. lol

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