Xfce 4.10 in Sid (via Siduction repo)

rizzo · 2012-10-27 19:12:35

For those who are finding a few bugs running Xfce 4.10 from experimental with Sid, this may be of interest. I think I have a new Sunday project smile

http://news.siduction.org/2012/10/xfce- … siduction/

jotapesse · 2012-10-29 16:01:35

^ Hi, omns! I must say I just (few days a go) upgraded my system to unstable/sid and still using xfce 4.10 from my previous xfce upgrade/install without any issues at all.

But if this packages from siduction work, then they are way easier to install/maintain. If you do try it please report back, I'll gladly update my how to with it. smile

Last edited by jotapesse (2012-10-30 14:38:44)

Stanie · 2012-10-30 14:36:29

omns wrote:

For those who are finding a few bugs running Xfce 4.10 from experimental with Sid, this may be of interest...

Thanks omns,
I haven't tried it with Sid yet, but it works without problems with Wheezy!

jotapesse · 2012-10-30 14:38:01

^ That's good to know! smile

hinto · 2012-10-30 14:51:20

^ I installed #! and tracked siduction an didn't look back.
-H

sqlpython · 2012-10-30 15:34:41

I will look to you that have updated to break ground..
I am leaving my Siduction at Xfce 4.8 for the time being.

hinto · 2012-10-30 18:11:20

^I'm there...
I installed using apt-get install xfce4 instead of smxi.
-Hinto

VastOne · 2012-10-30 18:41:30

I am not sure what is gained by adding the Siduction repos... I added them and tested what they are updating compared to Debian experimental and the files are identical.

jotapesse · 2012-10-30 18:43:42

^ They seem to have all the Xfce Apps and Plugins updated to 4.10, unlike the Debian experimental repository.

VastOne · 2012-10-30 18:45:51

^ Do you mean what is included in xfce4-goodies? I see those remaining at 4.8.

Or the ones that you are tracking in your How To?

vastone@vastone:~$ apt-cache policy libical0 orage thunar thunar-volman xfce4 xfce4-mixer
libical0:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.48-2
  Version table:
     0.48-2 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
orage:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.8.3-3.1
  Version table:
     4.8.3-3.1 0
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     4.8.3-3 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
     4.8.3-2 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
thunar:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.4.0-1
  Version table:
     1.4.0-1 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     1.2.3-4+b1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
thunar-volman:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.8.0-1
  Version table:
     0.8.0-1 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     0.6.1-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
xfce4:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.10.0
  Version table:
     4.10.0 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     4.8.0.3 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
xfce4-mixer:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.10.0-1
  Version table:
     4.10.0-1 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     4.8.0-3+b1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages

and

vastone@vastone:~$ apt-cache policy xfce4
xfce4:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.10.0
  Version table:
     4.10.0 0
        100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

jotapesse · 2012-10-30 18:52:09

^All of them. The meta-package xfce4-goodies does not exist on siduction, but all the individual apps and plugins are updated. Look here: http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfce … ol/main/x/

VastOne · 2012-10-30 18:55:21

^ ahhh ok, thanks. Got to get off the metapackages teat!

VastOne · 2012-10-30 22:45:51

As a follow up to this, my experiences installing Xfce 4.10 using the Siduction Repo

First I ran

sudo su

Then this

echo deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext unstable main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xfcenext.list

I could not pull down the siduction-archive-keyring through apt-get so I went to this site and downloaded this siduction-archive-keyring_2012.07.01_all.deb file and used gdebi to install it.

I parsed all of these apps from the /siduction/xfcenext source site

xfce4 xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-cellmodem-plugin xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-hdaps xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xfconf xfdesktop4 xfswitch-plugin xfwm4 xfwm4-themes

I installed all of them except xfswitch-plugin. That one package wanted to bring in all of Gnome3 and every single one of her dependencies... That I did not want.

Note on the xfswitch-plugin:

Xfswitch-plugin is a user switching plugin for the Xfce4 Panel. It allows you to leave the current session opened and open a new session with another user. At the moment it relies on GDM, but other display managers will be supported in the future.

So except for xfswitch-plugin, everything is fully installed and working fine.

This was the apt-get line I used to install it

sudo apt-get install -t unstable xfce4 xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-cellmodem-plugin xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-hdaps xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xfconf xfdesktop4 xfwm4 xfwm4-themes

jotapesse, you can use this little How To with yours if you feel inclined to.

jotapesse · 2012-10-30 23:31:24

VastOne wrote:

jotapesse, you can use this little How To with yours if you feel inclined to.

Done, thanks! smile It's here.

jotapesse · 2012-11-05 15:38:01

omns wrote:

I think I have a new Sunday project

So, omns... How was your Sunday? smile

rizzo · 2012-11-05 15:59:16

^ http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 23#p267523

devil angel

jotapesse · 2012-11-05 16:24:38

^ lol, can't say you're wrong, no sir. smile

m5 · 2012-11-07 16:02:11

I want to try xfce 4.10,and I`m using sid,if I add siduction xfce repo to my source list,I can`t use apt-get -t unstable install xfce,since I`m on debian unstable,or can I?
any risk of dependency hell?

Last edited by m5 (2012-11-07 16:09:12)

hinto · 2012-11-07 16:14:49

They told me on the siduction forums to edit /etc/apt/preferences and make unstable's priority lower than 900.
XFCE 4.10 will be picked up then.
my preferences:

Package: *
#Pin: release a=testing
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 890

#Package: *
#Pin: release n=statler
#Pin-Priority: 1001

#Package: *
#Pin: release n=squeeze
#Pin-Priority: 100

jotapesse · 2012-11-07 17:07:05

m5 wrote:

I want to try xfce 4.10,and I`m using sid,if I add siduction xfce repo to my source list,I can`t use
# apt-get -t unstable install xfce
,since I`m on debian unstable,or can I? any risk of dependency hell?

That will install/downgrade to Xfce 4.8 from Debian Sid/Unstable.
In doubt, you can always check which versions are available and are to be installed with:

$ apt-cache policy xfce

Try it. smile

Last edited by jotapesse (2012-11-07 17:10:03)

m5 · 2012-11-07 18:13:42

Thanks @hinto,Thanks @jotapesse,
Just installed xfce4.10.
xfce panel apart,it`s very nice.

Last edited by m5 (2012-11-07 18:14:05)

m5 · 2012-11-09 13:59:38

I`m noticing fonts are rendering differently than my openbox in xfce4.10,in xfce4.10 is more apple-ish,
How is it working?

jotapesse · 2012-11-10 00:00:51

I really didn't notice anything, but try to change the font rendering and see how it works better for you:

Settings Manager -> Appearance -> Fonts (tab)

You may change your font, its anti-aliasing, hinting and sub-pixel order. Also make sure you have the proper DPI setting for you monitor size and resolution. You should calculate your DPI by:

DPI = √(W^2 + H^2) / S

where W = Width in Pixels; H = Height in Pixels; S = Diagonal Size in Inches (display size).

My settings are:

Enabled anti-aliasing
Hinting: Slight
Sub-pixel ordering: RGB
DPI: 92 (for an 24" 1920x1080, but I choosed to set it on the xorg.conf file instead)

Try it. wink

Last edited by jotapesse (2012-11-10 00:01:59)

VastOne · 2012-11-10 00:11:53

^ Mine are

Enabled anti-aliasing
Hinting: Medium
Sub-pixel ordering: RGB
DPI: 96 (Which seems to fit my 28 inch screens better)

m5 · 2012-11-10 20:22:06

Thanks.

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