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#26 2012-10-03 15:56:26

mariannemarlow
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Re: UK Passport Question..

tao te wrote:

Affronting and not true.

Well, your country wasn't interested in the EU at all, just British economy lobbyists wanted the
profit from trade agreements, but unity or stability in Europe were never aimed from your "Empire".
The UK was converted to a financial technocracy, so complain about your government, not the EU.

I do apologise, my comment wasn't intended to be offensive.

I do complain about my government... all the time!

I also always vote.


Jimbo_G wrote:

Anyway, I don't think the passport issue has got much to do with the EU, it's all about the Schengen Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement). Although maybe if the UK had national identity cards than EU-wide travel without a passport would be possible.

For example, a French person with a French ID card can travel to England without their passport.

That is right yes, the Schengen Agreement. I looked it up smile


d! wrote:

And yes, people do complain, right here in the "empire", about "our government".

xx

We do! big_smile


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#27 2012-10-03 17:22:53

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Ah, the old Shenanigans agreement...

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#28 2012-10-03 17:39:17

mariannemarlow
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Re: UK Passport Question..

d! wrote:

Ah, the old Shenanigans agreement...


big_smile

It seems so..


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#29 2012-10-03 17:44:18

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Re: UK Passport Question..

mariannemarlow wrote:

...

d! wrote:

And yes, people do complain, right here in the "empire", about "our government".

xx

We do! big_smile

Ok, let's do it together. big_smile

nvm


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#30 2012-10-03 18:09:41

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Let me switch gears from the EU for a moment.
A bigger and much more important issue looms... Holidays/Vacations

As posted below if logs_con and mariannemarlow are more the UK norm then I feel misled in the least.
I watch a fair bit of BBC (Top Gear, Kitchen Nightmares etc etc) and one program in particular for a few weeks about families swapping Vacations/Holiday times/destinations.. The show wasn't much but while watching I heard more then once about the ample Holiday time given to the Average Brit and European in general. Well I was immediately envious. The reason being that I have never taken more then a week off at once in 45 plus years of working. Further this past weekend I took a 3 day trip to Boston our first time off since 2002. I might add only two weeks off in the 90s 1991 and 1998.

However, I see now that frequent Euro vacation of citizens are probably an exaggeration as well..
Any comments?

@logs_con wrote:

I know how you feel.

    Earlier in the year I had to cough up to renew my passport, my partner's, our eldest daughter's and get a brand new one for the 3 yr old.

    I won't quote how much it cost, I may start crying again. lol

    Had a lovely week in Corfu though. (first holiday in 11 yrs)

@mariannemarlow wrote:

The prices are mental.

Last time I went on holiday was 2005. Before that was honeymoon in Paris in 2002.

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#31 2012-10-03 18:16:55

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Re: UK Passport Question..

@sql I do not currently work due to ill health but even when I did we couldn't afford holidays. My only trip "abroad" was my honeymoon.


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#32 2012-10-04 07:03:58

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Re: UK Passport Question..

sqlpython wrote:

The show wasn't much but while watching I heard more then once about the ample Holiday time given to the Average Brit and European in general. Well I was immediately envious.

However, I see now that frequent Euro vacation of citizens are probably an exaggeration as well..
Any comments?

There's no such thing as an average holiday/vacation allowance in Europe, it varies widely from country to country (and even within one country). The issue is confused further by the number of public holidays in each country, plus rules like the 35-hour week in France; here, many people get extra days off as they inevitably work more than 35 hours per week.

Personally, working in France I can take 45 days of holiday per year, in addition to roughly 10 public holidays. This is exactly twice as much holiday as I had when I worked in the UK smile

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#33 2012-10-04 12:18:53

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@sqlpython

35 days holiday / 10 public holidays / 40 hour week big_smile

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#34 2012-10-04 20:43:19

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Jimbo_G wrote:

Anyway, I don't think the passport issue has got much to do with the EU, it's all about the Schengen Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement). Although maybe if the UK had national identity cards than EU-wide travel without a passport would be possible.

For example, a French person with a French ID card can travel to England without their passport.

The Schengen Agreement is about going to another country without necessary ID checks, that is the point - about the ID cards, I regularly travel from Bulgaria (Non-Schengen) to UK (~Non-Schengen) with ID card only smile

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#35 2012-10-04 21:00:56

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Re: UK Passport Question..

for python; 30 days holiday / 40 hour week.

public holidays in france fall whenever the date is, if it's a thursday - so be it., if you're lucky one might 'faire le pont' ie get friday off as well.
to be fair the august rush of holidays seem built into the french...  we just about afforded two weeks camping.

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#36 2012-10-07 08:12:11

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Based on the comments above from all, had I lived in Europe over the past 20 years I would have had at 35 days per yr 700 days off or the equivalent of 2years vacation.. Yikes!!!
Now I am really depressed... sad
Rest assured that the Corporate Managers that I work with and for had at least all of that time off...
  Oh Well, Life is tough and then You die.   smile
Can't get back lost time.


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#37 2012-10-07 11:03:42

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Re: UK Passport Question..

When I worked I mostly temped, bank holidays had to be taken as leave and I frequently cashed in my holidays rather than take them because we could not afford it. No sick pay either.


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#38 2012-10-07 18:12:02

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^ Yes, I did that once. I worked for a Corporation between 1975 and 1999 before I became self employed.
When the same corporation severed me changing my status to self employed. As I hadn't taken most of my time off during those years they offered a cash allowance.
My total days accumulated vacation and sick were 123 days owed me.
They gave me $5000 USD...  WoW! not exactly equitable.. big_smile.. especially based on my daily rate.
$40 a day if you do the math.
Corporations are Great!!

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#39 2012-10-07 18:15:00

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Re: UK Passport Question..

I got more than that when I was made redundant in 2002 and I hadn't even been with the company 2 years..

Plus my salary was only 15k at the time.

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#40 2012-10-07 18:17:57

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Re: UK Passport Question..

I blew it all, and more on getting married. Was my 10 year anniversary on 5th.. smile

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#41 2012-10-07 18:53:30

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Re: UK Passport Question..

OK, I'll be the first one to say this.  If you had to pay for your health care like we do in America (and most of us will still will have to, even under "universal health care"), the cost of a passport would be the least of your worries. neutral


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#42 2012-10-07 18:57:20

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Re: UK Passport Question..

If I had to pay for my healthcare, I would be dead.


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#43 2012-10-07 18:58:43

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Re: UK Passport Question..

@pvsage I am sure many people could come up with things that they need to pay for that are more important than a passport.


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#44 2012-10-08 00:07:55

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Re: UK Passport Question..

^ True  smile
Just all relative to your needs and pocketbook at given point in time..


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#45 2012-10-08 00:11:38

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Re: UK Passport Question..

I forgot to add.... to my other post above..

Corporations... Or as some people in this country like to call them "The Job Creators"
Makes my eyes tear up with laughter.


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#46 2012-10-09 07:28:38

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Re: UK Passport Question..

I just had to share my news with someone because I am very excited and fit to burst.

The passport office took the money for my passport from my bank account this morning, so it will be here soon!

big_smile


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#47 2012-10-11 21:32:32

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Again, sorry for the sudden outburst of enthusiasm..

I'm going to Paris next month big_smile

I am so excited. I'm going by coach (can't afford eurostar) and it will take almost 9 hours but I don't care!

big_smile big_smile


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#48 2012-10-16 03:46:39

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Re: UK Passport Question..

mariannemarlow wrote:

I keep having people tell me that I do not need a passport to Travel to France.

This isn't correct is it?

My 10 year passport ran out at the end of August.

I looked for the information on the internet but it's vague..

It would be great if I didn't need one as it's going to cost me £72.50 to renew. I am going to have to sell things on Ebay to do this!

Under English Common Law you do not need passport to exit the Country.  I do not know what laws of the land France has.  There is something somewhere where we are all supposed to be able to travel freely without a passport.  You need to have certain documents notarized professionally.  Study the Uniform Commercial Code from 1933 and the Admiralty Law system usurping our ancient and still standing systems which actually trump all legalese color of law.  By the way Paris is a dirty hole and France is going down drastically through economic decline.

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#49 2012-10-18 11:36:00

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Re: UK Passport Question..

Passport coming today by courier.

Hoooooooraaaayyyyy! big_smile


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