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#51 2012-10-02 12:20:47

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

Milozzy wrote:

@corenominal: I have another question (if I have not already pissed you off)

Not at all. smile

why Squeeze and not Xarchiver? The former doesn't support password protected archive, AFAIK, while the latter does.

Well, #! actually ships with file-roller, not squeeze, at least it should. Anyhow, I will take another look at xarchiver. I have used it in the past, but I honestly cannot remember the reasons for switching. hmm

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#52 2012-10-02 12:31:16

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

corenominal wrote:
Milozzy wrote:

@corenominal: I have another question (if I have not already pissed you off)

Not at all. smile

why Squeeze and not Xarchiver? The former doesn't support password protected archive, AFAIK, while the latter does.

Well, #! actually ships with file-roller, not squeeze, at least it should. Anyhow, I will take another look at xarchiver. I have used it in the past, but I honestly cannot remember the reasons for switching. hmm

Thanks wink
mmm I see squeeze in cb-metapackage but I don't see file-roller actually, and I thought that you made the switch:

milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep file-roller 
milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep squeeze
            thunar-dropbox-plugin, thunar-media-tags-plugin, squeeze, unrar,

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#53 2012-10-02 12:40:48

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

Milozzy wrote:

mmm I see squeeze in cb-metapackage but I don't see file-roller actually, and I thought that you made the switch:

milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep file-roller 
milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep squeeze
            thunar-dropbox-plugin, thunar-media-tags-plugin, squeeze, unrar,

Hmm, I need to fix this, or at least take another look at it. Basically, squeeze is referenced within the metapackage, but replaced with file-roller during the build process, via a hook. It is a little complicated, but due to file-roller's dependencies, it is easier/cleaner to install it during the build process using '--no-install-recommends'. Again, I will look at cleaning this up.

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#54 2012-10-02 12:54:32

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

corenominal wrote:
Milozzy wrote:

mmm I see squeeze in cb-metapackage but I don't see file-roller actually, and I thought that you made the switch:

milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep file-roller 
milo@crunchbang:~$ aptitude show cb-metapackage | grep squeeze
            thunar-dropbox-plugin, thunar-media-tags-plugin, squeeze, unrar,

Hmm, I need to fix this, or at least take another look at it. Basically, squeeze is referenced within the metapackage, but replaced with file-roller during the build process, via a hook. It is a little complicated, but due to file-roller's dependencies, it is easier/cleaner to install it during the build process using '--no-install-recommends'. Again, I will look at cleaning this up.

Ok now I understand, thanks! Anyway you could take a look at xarchiver anyway, it would let you avoid the nautilus-data dependency of file-roller.

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#55 2012-10-02 12:57:55

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

Milozzy wrote:

Ok now I understand, thanks! Anyway you could take a look at xarchiver anyway, it would let you avoid the nautilus-data dependency of file-roller.

Agreed. I will take another look at it. smile

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#56 2012-10-02 13:06:31

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

@corenominal
Updated ob-menu with no problems.
Completed some menu editing using ob-menu with no problems big_smile.

Thanks!

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#57 2012-10-02 18:15:52

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

@milozzy @corenominal
I comment out cb-hotcorners in autostart but seems to me I read in a rc or conf where dragging a window top left tiled it or moved to next desktop or docked it...whatever, I thought then how could 2 actions take place in top left? Somebody will get a priority complex lol, I'm in backtrack @ the moment torturing my iphone ios6 but will look later to find where I saw that....might help for those who like the hotcorner

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#58 2012-10-02 20:43:04

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

@corenominal: That search and replace for the obmenu fix that you suggested on the previous page ran over menu.xml only. Should I also run it over rc.xml, as there are "<command>" entries in there too.


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#59 2012-10-02 20:56:59

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

@SabreWolfy, the menu file needed updating to work with obmenu, but this is not the case for the rc file. Personally, I would probably leave it as is.

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#60 2012-10-02 20:59:32

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

corenominal wrote:

@SabreWolfy, the menu file needed updating to work with obmenu, but this is not the case for the rc file. Personally, I would probably leave it as is.

Agreed. If it ain't broke ... wink

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#61 2012-10-03 19:24:05

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

I don't know if this is an install problem or my hard drive packing up but I downloaded the latest image last night, used a windows version of unetbootin to create a bootable usb flash drive.

The bootup went fine, I loaded usernames and passwords but when the install got to "starting up the partitioner" my laptop decided to hang and remained that way for several minutes.

Only way to reboot was to remove the battery. I tried it again and exactly the same result.

Any thoughts?

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#62 2012-10-03 19:26:16

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ You confirmed the MD5 hash of the ISO?


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#63 2012-10-03 19:49:52

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ You confirmed the MD5 hash of the ISO?

Yes, 100% match.

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#64 2012-10-03 20:03:55

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

@Peace9r, interesting, I think this is the first report of this. So, does the system completely freeze? Can you not move to another console?

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#65 2012-10-03 20:04:58

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ Also, can you restart with the Alt-PrtSc REISUB key press thingie?

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#66 2012-10-03 20:29:58

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

corenominal wrote:

@Peace9r, interesting, I think this is the first report of this. So, does the system completely freeze? Can you not move to another console?

Yes, system completely freezes or rather does nothing at all.

Unfortunately my son's netbook is with him at the moment so don't have access to another console.

Maybe I'm impatient, so will give it a fresh try but only probably on Friday evening.

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ Also, can you restart with the Alt-PrtSc REISUB key press thingie?

Haven't tried.

Will report back after trying again.

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#67 2012-10-03 20:39:50

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ I think by "console", corenominal meant pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1/F2/F3, etc. to get to the other virtual tty terminals/consoles, although trying on another machine (as you understood it) is also a good idea smile


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#68 2012-10-04 05:07:38

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ I think by "console", corenominal meant pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1/F2/F3, etc. to get to the other virtual tty terminals/consoles, although trying on another machine (as you understood it) is also a good idea smile

Tried again this morning also trying to get into a different console and still everything hangs at the "starting up the partitioner"

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#69 2012-10-04 08:56:59

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ We need to isolate whether this is hardware or software related.


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#70 2012-10-04 09:03:13

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ Indeed, but a hard lockup is not very helpful for reading logs sad

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#71 2012-10-04 09:18:50

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ True hmm Peace9r, what hardware are you installing on? Have other recent, Debian-based installs worked on this machine? You should also try the #! install on another machine, as you said you would later this week.


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#72 2012-10-04 18:07:17

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

So, today I installed #! Waldorf and there were some strange problems. First of all, a lot of things moved in slow motion, I think I waited more than 10 seconds for Thunar to load. I looked through xsession-errors, but there wasn't much, there was something about memory, unsafe memory, something like that.

The funny thing is that plain Debian Wheezy with openbox works fine on my system. Anyway, I formatted the partition, because i have a small HDD and I need as much space as possible, but I can test again from the live-usb in case details are needed.


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#73 2012-10-04 18:10:04

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ I think the slow Thunar opening is a known issue for which there are workarounds.


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#74 2012-10-04 18:20:40

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

^ I see, that makes sense, actually. Another program that gives me trouble is Transmission, but this problem is on Debian, #! and even Ubuntu. I've switched to Deluge anyway, I'm trying to avoid gtk3 apps as much as possible anyway. smile


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#75 2012-10-04 18:22:12

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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120927

<tangent>

^ smile I've also just switched from Transmission to Deluge! The web interface for Deluge is awesome.

</tangent>

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