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#226 2012-09-28 16:05:21

zhogan85
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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

stat wrote:

I recently did a Net Install using the latest Wheezy beta 2 and some changes of note.
Foremost is that it now discovers the wlan0 and offers wpa/wpa2 as part of the expert install. In other words I had working wireless for the install process on my Acer Aspire One 722.

Good to know! That has always been a very frustrating part of the install process for me.

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#227 2012-10-26 17:19:13

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Hey VastOne thanks again for another great how to. In the middle of my first netinstall............ gonna try not to break anything big_smile

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#228 2012-10-26 17:22:06

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

lwfitz wrote:

Hey VastOne thanks again for another great how to. In the middle of my first netinstall............ gonna try not to break anything big_smile

Thanks and good luck!


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#229 2012-10-26 22:04:24

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Worked flawlessly! Thanks again buddy!

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#230 2012-10-26 22:08:37

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

^ Great to hear that ... No problem!


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#231 2012-10-27 15:11:55

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Hi there vast and thanks very much for the howto.  I'm enjoying the attempt to follow along smile

I've run into an issue, and was wondering if you might be able to shed some light on the problem for me.

During the final phase of running the kitchen sink script(vsido.sh), I began getting errors, some of which stated:

Unmet dependencies
Git: not found
CMake: not found

I'm sorry, but I'm not able to read them quickly enough to get more info and I'm not sure where to find the logs.

Once it rebooted, I logged in and typed startx, just to see if it would still go into the desktop, but after the graphical env starts, I'm left with a blank grey screen. It never goes any further.

I wiped and redid the install process three times to make sure that I was following along correctly and I think I did each step as instructed.  In your opinion, is this something I can fix where it stands(and if so, how?) or if not, do I need to try again and not use the automated script?

Thanks for your time!

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#232 2012-10-27 15:34:10

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

^ It sounds as if some of the dependencies are mucked up from the script, this will happen time to time from changes in the debian repos

I would try the non automated way ... 

I'll install using the script again and track down the issue.

Check your PM for further instructions...

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#233 2012-10-27 19:42:03

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

@VastOne, I was just looking over this script with a view to using it as a base for a new Sid install and had a question.

In two of the package install sections you use apt-get install -y -f --no-install-recommends

Just wondering what extra stuff your avoiding by using --no-install-recommends and why the -f flag?

cheers

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#234 2012-10-27 19:56:41

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

The -f flag to try and fix any broken dependencies and the no-install-depends  primarily to keep extras out of packages such as Xfce and such.

The no-install-recommends is probably not needed at all come to think of it.


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#235 2012-10-27 20:11:51

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

^ok cool, thanks smile

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#236 2012-10-28 17:54:08

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Hi there Vast,

I never heard back from you concerning the iso, so I went ahead and attempted the manual install and got stopped at the very first step after skipping the install scrips.

I added the two repos to sources list.  On update, it gave me the GPG error, as it should but on installing debian-multimedia-keyring, I get the following error:

E: Unable to locate package debian-multimedia-keyring

Also, while in /etc/apt/sources.list, I see the following:

#deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib

deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main

So it looks like another repo got disabled during initial install due to whatever issue I'm having.

Searching online, it looks like some people had this problem because of the standard nameservers installed, so I changed the nameservers to OpenDNS servers, rebooted, updated again and tried once more to install only to get the same error.

Any idea on why it might be failing on this step?  Although the keyring probably isn't causing my later issues, it might be stemming from the same problem that is causing the later errors.

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#237 2012-10-28 18:21:10

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

^ Corrected the How-To instructions to reflect the change from debian-multimedia-keyring to deb-multimedia-keyring

Thanks...

Answering PM now that I just saw it...


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#238 2012-10-28 20:52:33

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

is the following in my list of any consequence?

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib

Just wondering if that might have caused some of my install issues.

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#239 2012-10-28 21:13:33

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Continuing on, assuming that the errors are helpful to you.  Just let me know if this is not the case and I'll cease posting them.

During the manual install, at this stage:

sudo apt-get -t experimental install xfce4-panel xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-appfinder thunar xfwm4 xfwm4-themes xfdesktop4 thunar-volman tumbler

I got the following(any misspellings are due to transfer over between systems and are not in the install text)

It told me that I was trying to remove and then install the same kernel(3.2.0-4-686-pae) and that it was STRONGLY suggested that I abort the kernel removal, so I clicked the yes, I will listen button and was rewarded with the following:

Aborting removal of running kernel image.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae (--remove):
subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Removing tasksel ...
Removing tasksel-data ...
Removing liblocale-gettext-perl ...
dpkg: libuuid-perl: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested: linux-base depends on libuuid-perl.

Removing libuuid-perl ...
dpkg: linux-base: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae depends on linux-base (>= 3~).

Removing linux-base ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I attempted to continue the install by using apt-get install -f as instructed by the system to fix dependencies and made it the further through the install process, but when I rebooted and logged into lightdm, I was greeted with the same grey square that I got 7 install attempts ago, so it seems I had no better luck with the manual process.  I'm still w/out xfce, just a grey screen and mouse pointer.(openbox is there, as a right-click will allow me to launch iceweasel, terminal, etc.)  Looking under sessions of the lightdm, the only thing listed besides default is Openbox.  There is no mention of xfce.

I don't see anything further in the install process that would give me xfce at a later time, should I be in xfce at the reboot and lightdm login?

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#240 2012-11-06 17:47:39

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Just wanted to say Thanks...
Began with net-install, but didn't let it install any desktop.
Apt-get Xfce4, geany, and modified sources.list to include multimedia and Wheezy repos. Maybe try Sid later.
Didn't use everything you had listed here, but got pointed in the right direction, so thanks for putting it out there.
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#241 2012-11-06 17:49:57

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

^ Glad it helped Jim.  Thank you! 

I use it primarily as a resource now too.


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#242 2012-11-11 16:50:38

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Awesome howto VastOne!  I got through it the first time round, including wireless working and allowing me to do the netinst.  I think I used the netinst for Debian 7 beta3 wheezy, then eventually got to sid-unstable.  I'll tweak and moan for a while before I ask for any help.  I'm suspicious of my Bumblebee install.  I have the Optimus graphics setup that is so commonn on today's newer laptops.  Hopefully nVidia will (oh nooo  rant rant rant)

Can't get the signatures to verify telling me that public key is not available.  I'm typing something in wrong somewhere.  This gives me a break from 'playing' for a while!  Really awesome job on the howto.  I read all 10 pages of posts!

jedsdesk@jedsdesk:~$ sudo apt-get install '^suwako.asc-([^-]+-) ?keyring.?'
[sudo] password for jedsdesk: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package ^suwako.asc-([^-]+-) ?keyring.?
E: Couldn't find any package by regex '^suwako.asc-([^-]+-) ?keyring.?'

Thats the site that takes care of Bumblebee...  I'll admit that this is my first time swimming this deep into Linux.  I noticed a few posts regarding the Liquorix kernel.  I've updated/upgraded-?- to the latest which at the time of this posting is 3.6.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64.  It is faster...  Or it seems as if it is.
Also, when I try to log into OB, it lets me, but nothing will start up.  Something about no child process or something.  I'm logged into Xfce4 right now, and obviously am able to use Iceweasel and I've got terminator installed and working.  Pondering where to go from here.  Oh yeah, I don't have any sound.  Well, I don't have any music apps either.  Or it's not showing them to me in the Xfce menu.  Like I said, still trying to wrap my brain around all this.  I come from the hand holding orange place, and it'll take a little while for my 'eyes' to adjust!  (But, I'm stubborn)

Someones signature had it right;  "It's hard to find something when your not sure what it is your looking for... Or something like that.  I don't really know the right questions to ask".  ops
Big thanks to Sector11 who as usuall was generous with his help!!!

Jed

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#243 2012-11-11 17:14:04

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

Did you
(1) Add the bumblebee repo to your apt sources?
(2) run sudo apt-get update?

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#244 2012-11-11 17:39:42

jed
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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

xaos52 wrote:

Did you
(1) Add the bumblebee repo to your apt sources?
(2) run sudo apt-get update?

Yes.  When it came to getting the public key going, thats where things went awry.  (I think)  Because of this I'm not sure if Bumblebee is working right.  According to the difference in how glxspheres runs, it is.  When using the 'optirun' option it almost doubles the framerate of the aforementioned app.

Nevermind on the above!  Just manually imported the key and voila.  It's fine.  My other problem is that when I try to install something in Synaptic, i.e. xfce-screenshooter, I get the following;

xfce4-screenshooter:
 Depends: libsoup2.4-1 but it is not going to be installed
  Recommends: xfce4-panel (<4.9) but 4.10.0-1 is to be installed

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jed

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#245 2012-11-11 17:56:04

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Hi Jed... Thanks!  I appreciate you testing and your insights.

apt-cache policy xfce4-screenshooter

Run and post the output please..


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#246 2012-11-11 18:08:03

jed
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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

VastOne wrote:

Hi Jed... Thanks!  I appreciate you testing and your insights.

apt-cache policy xfce4-screenshooter

Run and post the output please..

xfce4-screenshooter:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.8.1-1+b1
  Version table:
     1.8.1-1+b1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages

That's it.  Got a PM with Sector going at the moment as well....

Thanks,
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#247 2012-11-11 18:16:26

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

You do not have experimental enabled in sources, which is where Xfce 4.10 comes from.

Enable that and it should install fine.


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#248 2012-11-11 18:23:37

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

I was able to get Xfce 4.10 installed.  What about spacefm?  Shouldn't that be up and running?

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#249 2012-11-11 18:26:00

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

If it installed correctly, yes...

Is this issue resolved then?

xfce4-screenshooter:
 Depends: libsoup2.4-1 but it is not going to be installed
  Recommends: xfce4-panel (<4.9) but 4.10.0-1 is to be installed

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#250 2012-11-11 18:29:46

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Re: Debian Netinstal Sid - Yet Another How To

No, still says it's not installed.

An update to all apps surrounding Xfce 4.10 is now in experimental, including orage and xfce4-mixer that now works with the 4.10 xfce4-panel

Now the meta package of Xfce 4.10 can be installed.  If you have

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free

in your /etc/apt/sources.list, the following will install Xfce 4.10 and all the goodies

sudo apt-get -t experimental install xfce4

That's what worked for me.  Or so I thought.  It says Xfce is version 4.10 now, however, none of the apps like screenshooter are there.  Or if they are, I don't know where 'there' is...

Thanks,
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