^ My words exactly.
I am struggling at the moment to compile a driver for the internet controller on my new machine. Meaning I have to install the right headers and compiler tools to get access to the net. And it's a pain (admitedly partly because I don't know what I am doing). I am lucky to have a second machine with internet access though. If headers and build tools had been on the install DVD, it would have been as easy as
- post issue on forums
- xaos52 diagnose issue in 2 posts
- download driver contained in xaos52 second post
- compile driver copied from USB key and enjoy.
whereas now I am still fighting with it...so yeah, if it's going to be 700MB, headers and such should be there in my opinion!
I love #! more than my own kids. I told them and they sympathized.
...had another go at installing the latest tarball from Realtek (dated eight days ago) for my wifi in Waldorf...still a fail with the current kernel and my particular dongle...leaves my dongle dangling. (Truth be told, 'twas my personal experience/aggravation with this dongle that drove me to starting this thread. Belkin can P*nk my B*eber - avoid their wifi dongles like the plague.)
while ( ! ( succeed = try() ) );
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Anything that can be done on the .iso file to avoid that situation would be megabytes worth spending perhaps? I used to advocate including pcmciautils (a few Kb) for the same reason, but laptops using pcmcia LAN cards seem to be relatively few now.
With the idea of 'avoiding that situation' and reading the last paragraph of 'build-essential' information in synaptic:
This package is NOT the definition of what packages are
build-essential; the real definition is in the Debian Policy Manual.
This package contains merely an informational list, which is all
most people need. However, if this package and the manual disagree,
the manual is correct.
It would make sense to include the Debian Policy Manual:
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