Shouldn't the default browser be one that can update easily?

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-18 10:21:35

I installed Statler but updated to Waldorf - they use Iceweasel but it doesn't update like Firefox even though i'ts more or less the same.

pitje · 2012-08-18 11:18:12

I think the default browser should be luakit, because that is what I use. A 'git pull && make && sudo make install' and I'm up-to-date again.

Of course, this can all change when I find a new browser that I like to play with.

Tunafish · 2012-08-18 11:28:17

pitje wrote:

I think the default browser should be luakit, because that is what I use.

big_smile

rizzo · 2012-08-18 11:53:58

ChickenPie4Tea wrote:

I installed Statler but updated to Waldorf - they use Iceweasel but it doesn't update like Firefox even though i'ts more or less the same.

You'll need to explain that a bit more. What do you mean when you say it doesn't update like Firefox? What are the specific differences?

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-18 12:11:36

Well when I used firefox in the past you could check for updates in the menu and it offered you updates from time to time. I dont see any option like that in Iceweasel

rizzo · 2012-08-18 12:18:42

It updates from the repos which is much more reliable smile

snowpine · 2012-08-18 13:53:49

I use:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

for 4 years. No problems with the browser.

sano · 2012-08-18 14:07:55

I think this is about Iceweasel usually being behind FF's most recent version. Some homepages complain about that, citing security issues.
Somewhere here on the forums should be a how-to on installing FF's binary on #!, or any debian-based system. Can't be bothered to look for it now, it's way too hot here.

Sector11 · 2012-08-18 14:22:00

snowpine wrote:

I use:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
for 4 years. No problems with the browser.

I use 'upit'

alias upit='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'

... ok same thing. big_smile

Well, look at that:

Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  icedove iceweasel ifupdown libmozjs16d logrotate nvclock potool smartdimmer tzdata tzdata-java
  xulrunner-16.0
11 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 37.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 25.6 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

I also use: '/etc/apt/sources.list'

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-aurora

Iceweasel: 16.0a2 (2012-08-10) - being updated as I type!
Now: 16.0a2 (2012-08-17)

Last edited by Sector11 (2012-08-18 14:24:29)

ivanovnegro · 2012-08-18 14:23:14

Iceweasel gets regular updates, there is no problem with it.

Also, the version in Wheezy is more or less up-to-fate, it is actually the ESR version with long term support. Adequate for Debian's more conservative and stable approach.

If you are not happy with it, take another version of Iceweasel from here, mentioned yet million of times:

http://mozilla.debian.net/

Or just take Firefox but these posts are getting boring. big_smile

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-18 17:35:08

I'm using version 11 but am having problems getting xdo tool to work with it (works fine with Chrome) I tried updating to a newer version with no luck - will try again.

ivanovnegro · 2012-08-18 17:44:59

Post output of your update process. Any errors? Have you still CrunchBang's own repo for Mozilla in your sources list? Because you upgraded to Waldorf. I was never fond of it. I recommend to remove it especially now on Waldorf and add the one I mentioned before.

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-18 19:22:11

Thanks sector 11 for the repository
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-aurora
still didn't work though as I just get "needs dependency xulrunner 16 - instead of the older version I am using and if I try to update xulrunner it also needs dependencies upgraded and so on.
ivanovnegro - I was just trying to upgrade using synaptic but have not been successful so far which made me wonder if this was the best browser to have as standard - maybe it is I dont know.

mynis01 · 2012-08-18 19:30:42

Just download the binary, extract it to /opt or somewhere that works for you, and double click run-mozilla.sh or make a keybind for it in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml. Firefox should now automatically update its self without user intervention.

sunfizz98 · 2012-08-18 19:46:46

+1 pitje and Tunafish for luakit big_smile

arclance · 2012-08-18 20:07:54

@ChickenPie4Tea
You need to tell http://mozilla.debian.net/ what version of debian you are using to get the right install instructions for your version.
Since you are using Waldorf you should select testing.

If you want the current stable version add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://your-mirror.debian.org/debian experimental main

replacing "http://your-mirror.debian.org" with the debian mirror you use.

Then run

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel

and you should be updated to iceweasel 14.

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-19 06:22:44

Thanks arclance but the problem is I dont know what to put as the mirror, the only line I had in my sources list for iceweasel was:

deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf-mozilla waldorf main iceweasel-release

ok I updated to version 14 using
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release

even though I am using waldorf - works though. Although the initial reason for wanting to try a newer version was because version 11 wasn't working with xdo-tool - updating did nothing to change that so I need not have bothered.

Last edited by ChickenPie4Tea (2012-08-19 08:40:49)

Sector11 · 2012-08-19 13:23:37

ChickenPie4Tea wrote:

Thanks arclance but the problem is I dont know what to put as the mirror, the only line I had in my sources list for iceweasel was:
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf-mozilla waldorf main iceweasel-release

mrpeachy talks about the xdotool in his thread for "interactive conkys". Says the repos version is old and for interactive conkys a newer version is required. He gives links to get it.

  19 Aug 12 | 09:59:34 ~
         $ xdotool --version
xdotool version 2.20110530.1

  19 Aug 12 | 09:59:40 ~
         $

That might fix up your problem.

Available in the SID repos now as well: http://packages.debian.org/sid/xdotool

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-08-19 14:17:08

Thanks, but I am using that version
xdotool version 2.20110530.1
thanks anyways

ivanovnegro · 2012-08-19 14:33:46

ChickenPie4Tea wrote:

Thanks arclance but the problem is I dont know what to put as the mirror, the only line I had in my sources list for iceweasel was:
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf-mozilla waldorf main iceweasel-release

The mirror would be the one you already use for Debian main.

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