Waldorf development images ready for testing

SabreWolfy · 2012-06-11 11:40:58

^ Agreed. My feeling is that discussions like "A is better than B", or "the default should be C", or "Why isn't D included?" are a little pointless. Everyone customizes post-install anyway. For everyone who wants A and C included, there will be as many who specifically want A and C excluded smile

Awebb · 2012-06-11 11:49:25

xcompmgr has been part of crunchbang since the Ubuntu times. it was disabled by default and there was an entry in the Openbox menu guiding the user through enabling it. Since Compton is a more efficient xcompmgr fork and it helps getting rid of cairo-compmgr, there is no issue here, there never has been.

Talking about pulseaudio would be a different thing, though. It adds compatibility problems and complexity for some people using older hardware, but it grants an easy access for those wishing to output over HDMI. The Linux audio jungle is an ugly mess.

@SabreWolfy: Exactly. As long as the standard tools are not malicious in any way, most discussions about that topic tend to be quite irrelevant. Especially when it is asked about browsers. Dull discussions about imaginary memory holes, a certain feature or the lack of it. I find replacing xcompmgr with compton far more interesting, as it actually shapes the distro.

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Yogi · 2012-06-17 22:21:44

DancesWithWords wrote:

Is anyone testing this on an Asus EEE PC? I've got a 901 and I loved to know that that it will work including all the "fn" keys.
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DancesWithWords

Hi,
Waldorf is running smoothly on my 901 !
Been using it for 1 or 2 months, gained one full Wh from Statler 2010-> 7h on end with Wifi and typing hard with Gedit or Abiword.
All Fn OK, only Bluetooth applet needs to be put in Autostart, and so on. You really want to give it a try !

rahmu · 2012-06-22 17:01:44

I don't know if this is the correct topic to give this feedback. I just installed a new instance of Waldorf on a Virtualbox. For the first time, I opted for an automatic partition with simply a separate /home partition. The installer suggested this so I took it.

Install went fine, I log in, cb-welcome pops out and ultimately launches an apt-get dist-upgrade. I don't remember exactly the amount of packages it downloaded, but I recall it was over 400MB of size. As it is installing, I suddenly start getting error messages, something along the lines: "No Space left on device".

I look at the disk usage and here's what I get:

rahmu@crunchbang:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs 2.5G 2.5G 0 100% /
udev 496M 0 496M 0% /dev
tmpfs 101M 548K 100M 1% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/942b1c49-ce19-4698-8658-c2d1a1fdc856 2.5G 2.5G 0 100% /
tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
tmpfs 201M 8.0K 201M 1% /tmp
tmpfs 201M 72K 201M 1% /run/shm
/dev/sda6 5.3G 211M 4.8G 5% /home

rootfs is only 2.5G, and is filled at 100%! I didn't install anything, simply upgraded to newer versions of my programs.

In retrospect, I understand that I created an 8GB disk for the install. (I did not chose it as much as it was the default setting in Virtualbox). This may seem low, but #! claims to support a kind of computer that yields similar limitations.

It is understandable that a bigger percentage of the total disk space would be allocated to /home. This is undeniable, but can't we define a minimum viable lower limit?

I also understand this is probably a problem with the upstream. I don't know exactly who created this installer, and if #! didn't simply inherit it (and this annoying behavior along with it). I did not (and probably will not) try to reproduce this with other versions of Debian and/or #!. It takes too long. Even booting on an ISO to launch the installer takes long minutes.

I hope this will be taken (at least a little bit) seriously; I guess installing #! on a Virtualbox is a fairly common activity nowadays.

In the meantime, if anyone knows how to expand the size of an existing full partition, you'd be my hero of the day ^^

SabreWolfy · 2012-06-23 13:33:40

#! uses the Debian installer.

TitanMech · 2012-06-23 14:52:18

Hi rahmu

I use crunchbang in VBox, and i always use a dynamic hard drive, and then set the size to something like 50GB.
The advantage of using a dynamic drive is that it does not take up anymore space than the sum of all file on the virtual machine. I also put everything into one partition labelled as / so that the problem with the root partition running out of space doesnt occur.

Hashi Godan · 2012-06-23 20:43:13

SabreWolfy wrote: My feeling is that discussions like "A is better than B", or
"the default should be C", or "Why isn't D included?" are a little pointless.

I very much disagree.
It is thru this type of discussion that we find other ways of doing ...
Each of us using different hardware for the most part.
Each of us different objectives for the most part.
We have different viewpoints.

The point is -- WE learn from our differences.

That is this septuagenarian's opinion.

VastOne · 2012-06-23 21:04:48

^ Which is why having a choice is the most important part of the discussion, meaning that apt-get install A B or C is just a matter of opening a terminal.

As Sabre said, we all customize in different ways and as Orion the Hunter said, Corenominal is open to discussions and ultimately the decisions.

nonvolatile · 2012-06-29 14:22:07

I plan to reinstall crunchbang since Ive got new hardware and the old installation runs quite unstable now. When will there be a new waldorf image? If this happens anytime soon Ill wait for it wink
Thank you!

merelyjim · 2012-06-29 17:11:33

Get the current one now! http://crunchbang.org/download/

Five minutes of command-line-magic and you'll be current and the install will be kosher. smile

nonvolatile · 2012-06-30 10:49:54

merelyjim wrote:

Get the current one now! http://crunchbang.org/download/
Five minutes of command-line-magic and you'll be current and the install will be kosher.

Well, Im running the current one but made it wheezy myself. Now corenominal is doing that so I thought about waiting for him wink
But I guess Ill do as you said because Im bad at waiting big_smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-06-30 10:51:09

^ FWIW, Wheezy != Waldorf though. The Waldorf images contain other updates/changes in addition to being based on wheezy.

nonvolatile · 2012-06-30 10:58:28

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ FWIW, Wheezy != Waldorf though. The Waldorf images contain other updates/changes in addition to being based on wheezy.

Yes, another reason to use them (when they are stable)! Until now I always liked the way corenominal did the things he did so Ill definitely try Waldorf...

Oliviakrk · 2012-06-30 20:47:26

Waldorf it totally stable ( as running without any problems ) now... On testing.

Runs much better with nVidia Optimus and i7 than Statler.

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xaos52 · 2012-07-01 09:00:13

How about a quick howto?

Oliviakrk · 2012-07-01 11:15:14

Install Waldorf normally (nVidia will be enabled all the time).

Then use repository:
http://suwako.nomanga.net/

And install bumblebee.
Reboot and nvidia will be disabled (over 1,5h more battery life big_smile ).

It is very easy in Wheezy because package VirtualGL will work. In Squeeze I had tons of problems with it.

XwarlokX · 2012-07-01 19:54:42

Waldorf has been a knockout success for me as well. I haven't had a single thing break on me, and the updates are always smooth as silk without any breakages there as well. Nothing is hard to configure or figure out with the helpful guides here and on irc.

Congrats y'all... I feel this one is already capable of being stable!

nonvolatile · 2012-07-02 20:12:11

No install for me... System froze when it said 'Detecting Hardware' or so (to find the cd drive). I read that some people hat problems with the network hardware and the setup worked 20 min later, haven't tried that since Im in a hurry...
(installing from USB didnt work since my new mainboard wont boot from usb pen drives, Ill check that later)

merelyjim · 2012-07-04 02:34:59

nonvolatile wrote:

No install for me... System froze when it said 'Detecting Hardware' or so (to find the cd drive). I read that some people hat problems with the network hardware and the setup worked 20 min later, haven't tried that since Im in a hurry...
(installing from USB didnt work since my new mainboard wont boot from usb pen drives, Ill check that later)

I used a CD myself, but pendrivelinux.com has a USB installer that worked with Stadler, thus worth a shot.

nonvolatile · 2012-07-04 04:05:57

merelyjim wrote:

nonvolatile wrote:
No install for me... System froze when it said 'Detecting Hardware' or so (to find the cd drive). I read that some people hat problems with the network hardware and the setup worked 20 min later, haven't tried that since Im in a hurry...
(installing from USB didnt work since my new mainboard wont boot from usb pen drives, Ill check that later)
I used a CD myself, but pendrivelinux.com has a USB installer that worked with Stadler, thus worth a shot.

I used unetbootin but thats not the problem: The pen drive boots in my laptop but does not anything in my real pc wink

merelyjim · 2012-07-04 16:17:53

^ Sorry, I misunderstood the problem.

zhogan85 · 2012-07-05 14:49:20

nonvolatile wrote:

merelyjim wrote:
nonvolatile wrote:
No install for me... System froze when it said 'Detecting Hardware' or so (to find the cd drive). I read that some people hat problems with the network hardware and the setup worked 20 min later, haven't tried that since Im in a hurry...
(installing from USB didnt work since my new mainboard wont boot from usb pen drives, Ill check that later)
I used a CD myself, but pendrivelinux.com has a USB installer that worked with Stadler, thus worth a shot.
I used unetbootin but thats not the problem: The pen drive boots in my laptop but does not anything in my real pc

Try using the dd method detailed here, http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/statler … stallation. This method is much more reliable than unetbootin. Also note, in the example it would be sdb, not sdb1. That is also a common mistake.

schemer · 2012-07-08 19:03:19

I performed a clean installation of Waldorf yesterday and did a dist-upgrade (520MB :-o), installed around 40 programs, installed a lot of the latest Mono stuff and I did not face any major issues or breakages.

Everything worked just as before with Statler. The look and feel is wonderful. With Waldorf, CrunchBang just became a 11/10 IMHO.

Thank you corenominal smile

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Though these didn't bother me at all, the things I have noticed are:

the changes in synaptic, for example I can't find the search bar (just pointing it out, I have already seen other members talk about it; I am a happy apt-get user)
Once when Chrome opened up, Conky was on top chrome and would not go behind. (one time issue)
Once Chrome wouldn't show up properly; incorrect edges etc.(one time issue)
Touchpad scrolling feels a tad heavier than last time, at times. (not much of a bother, this one)
File Manager, Terminator open slowly for the first time after a new boot (still pretty responsive all the subsequent times)
inxi command not found, can't install from repos. (This is the one that bothered me a bit, anyone know why its not in repos?)

damo · 2012-07-08 19:26:03

schemer wrote:

....
File Manager, Terminator open slowly for the first time after a new boot (still pretty responsive all the subsequent times)

Same here, but

sudo apt-get remove gvfs-backends

solved that for me: see solved-a-thunar-issue

ivanovnegro · 2012-07-08 20:55:34

@schemer: Maybe you need this package:

apt-xapian-index

if it is related to this.

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