Chromium vs. Iceweasel

VastOne · 2012-05-30 16:31:54

@joksim

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saneks · 2012-05-31 02:12:26

pvsage wrote:

I've always had trouble with Midori self-terminating at random intervals...nowhere near as bad as Kazehakase, but still nowhere near as stable-as-in-reliable as Iceweasel.

oh yes. I hated that in midori when using slitaz. the backspace key killed it randomly. nice if you type on forums. eventually I adapted to use left-key and use del instead of backspace. after I realised that, I installed another browser.

+1 for iceweasel btw

I remember I posted my experience with chrome vs iceweasel in another topic (the last statler release that came wih chrome). chrome tends/tended to use a lot of ram when opening a new tab, then reducing usage. iceweasel behaves better. on lower spec machines, this is sometimes crucial, because chrome might just hang for ages until it reduced memory usage.

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Milozzy · 2012-05-31 10:54:35

joksim wrote:

As someone that develops web apps. I use all 3 (Chrome, Iceweasel, Opera), but my preffered browser is Opera, mainly because of the mail/chat integration...

Maybe you should try Iceape, it integrates the functionalities of Iceweasel and Icedove, plus a chat and an HTML editor...

machinebacon · 2012-05-31 11:01:24

pvsage wrote:

I've always had trouble with Midori self-terminating at random intervals...nowhere near as bad as Kazehakase, but still nowhere near as stable-as-in-reliable as Iceweasel.

I know this problem with midori, it just crashed without any reason, and believe me, I have really tried to love it, tried it in different versions etc. After a year I gave up on it.
The interesting thing is, that siduction ships Midori as their default browser in the LXDE edition, and it is rock stable. At least until now, having used it a few days, not a single crash.

Milozzy · 2012-05-31 11:16:50

machinebacon wrote:

The interesting thing is, that siduction ships Midori as their default browser in the LXDE edition, and it is rock stable. At least until now, having used it a few days, not a single crash.

How is it possible?
I went throught your same path, tried to love it but gave up in the end.

machinebacon · 2012-05-31 11:47:31

Milo: In this very moment I use Midori 0.4.3 in Frugalware. No idea how to demonstrate its stability big_smile It simply works well. Unfortunately

Milozzy · 2012-05-31 11:58:56

machinebacon wrote:

Milo: In this very moment I use Midori 0.4.3 in Frugalware. No idea how to demonstrate its stability It simply works well. Unfortunately

So it's a 4.3 quality and not a siduction quality, right?

joksim · 2012-05-31 13:24:47

Milozzy wrote:

joksim wrote:
As someone that develops web apps. I use all 3 (Chrome, Iceweasel, Opera), but my preffered browser is Opera, mainly because of the mail/chat integration...
Maybe you should try Iceape, it integrates the functionalities of Iceweasel and Icedove, plus a chat and an HTML editor...

Yeah, I know, but I have my preferences, I don't like thunderbird (and I tried very much to like it). Plus, IceApe is heavy on resources considering Opera...

I have tried a lot of mail clients (Alpine - ok, too much time spent on configuration, Gnus - could't make a SMTP connection, Claws/Slypheerd - not as elegant, IceApe - too much slow and big memory overhead, Evolution - memory hog, etc.).

Its a minimalistic option, that's the reason I like #!

machinebacon · 2012-05-31 14:00:57

Milozzy wrote:

machinebacon wrote:
Milo: In this very moment I use Midori 0.4.3 in Frugalware. No idea how to demonstrate its stability It simply works well. Unfortunately
So it's a 4.3 quality and not a siduction quality, right?

Like Deng Xiaoping said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat - as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat!" big_smile

Milozzy · 2012-05-31 14:08:33

machinebacon wrote:

Milozzy wrote:
machinebacon wrote:
Milo: In this very moment I use Midori 0.4.3 in Frugalware. No idea how to demonstrate its stability It simply works well. Unfortunately
So it's a 4.3 quality and not a siduction quality, right?
Like Deng Xiaoping said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat - as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat!"

Right! But my cat is quite strange...I just tried Midori 4.3 on my Debian wheezy and it has no extentions nor bookmarks support...

machinebacon · 2012-05-31 14:16:55

^ Strange... Here in Frugalware i have the choice of cca. 16 extensions, configurable. And yes, Bookmarks (Import/Export) are there.

Milo, I will boot into Sid later and have a look. Keep you updated smile

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Milozzy · 2012-05-31 14:19:47

machinebacon wrote:

^ Strange... Here in Frugalware i have the choice of cca. 16 extensions, configurable. And yes, Bookmarks (Import/Export) are there.
Milo, I will boot into Sid later and have a look. Keep you updated

thanks macchinapancetta!

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-31 14:56:46

joksim wrote:

Yeah, I know, but I have my preferences, I don't like thunderbird (and I tried very much to like it). Plus, IceApe is heavy on resources considering Opera...
I have tried a lot of mail clients (Alpine - ok, too much time spent on configuration, Gnus - could't make a SMTP connection, Claws/Slypheerd - not as elegant, IceApe - too much slow and big memory overhead, Evolution - memory hog, etc.).
Its a minimalistic option, that's the reason I like #!

So what email client do you use?

machinebacon · 2012-05-31 15:01:24

Milozzy wrote:

machinebacon wrote:
^ Strange... Here in Frugalware i have the choice of cca. 16 extensions, configurable. And yes, Bookmarks (Import/Export) are there.
Milo, I will boot into Sid later and have a look. Keep you updated
thanks macchinapancetta!

Amico mio,

No idea what's wrong with your cat tongue This is 0.4.3.-1

Milozzy · 2012-05-31 15:27:33

machinebacon wrote:

Milozzy wrote:
machinebacon wrote:
^ Strange... Here in Frugalware i have the choice of cca. 16 extensions, configurable. And yes, Bookmarks (Import/Export) are there.
Milo, I will boot into Sid later and have a look. Keep you updated
thanks macchinapancetta!
Amico mio,
No idea what's wrong with your cat This is 0.4.3.-1

The cat is fine but is dad is a f'n idiot! I keep launching the private session invoking midori with fehlstart!

Thanks MB and sorry!

joksim · 2012-05-31 15:37:42

SabreWolfy wrote:

joksim wrote:
Yeah, I know, but I have my preferences, I don't like thunderbird (and I tried very much to like it). Plus, IceApe is heavy on resources considering Opera...
I have tried a lot of mail clients (Alpine - ok, too much time spent on configuration, Gnus - could't make a SMTP connection, Claws/Slypheerd - not as elegant, IceApe - too much slow and big memory overhead, Evolution - memory hog, etc.).
Its a minimalistic option, that's the reason I like #!
So what email client do you use?

Opera, as I mentioned earlier... I do believe we are getting out of the topic...

KrunchTime · 2012-06-02 05:07:09

Hmmm...that's a tough question Core. I like Chromium because it's true opensource. However, I like Chrome for the built-in Flash, built-in PDF viewer, and built-in handling of AAC and MP3 codecs. One last thing, I've used Chromium under CrunchBang and to clear all personal data requires going through the browser settings. I haven't used Chrome in Linux, but I have used it in Windows and to clear all personal data, you just use the CTRL-SHIFT-DELETE key combination.

So, for all of the reasons referenced, I begrudgingly vote for Chrome.

Stanie · 2012-06-02 07:31:38

KrunchTime wrote:

Hmmm...that's a tough question Core. I like Chromium because it's true opensource. However, I like Chrome for the built-in Flash, built-in PDF viewer, and built-in handling of AAC and MP3 codecs. One last thing, I've used Chromium under CrunchBang and to clear all personal data requires going through the browser settings. I haven't used Chrome in Linux, but I have used it in Windows and to clear all personal data, you just use the CTRL-SHIFT-DELETE key combination.
So, for all of the reasons referenced, I begrudgingly vote for Chrome.

Well, if you mean to clear all browsing data, just press Ctrl+H combo or click on the wrench icon and choose History...
As for me - I like both FF and Chromium. Even though FF wins because of a few addons without equivalent in Chromium. No need to include Google Chrome into CrunchBang - I prefer at least an illusion of anonymity (I don't even use google search most of the time) to built-in Flash (the one in #! works great), built-in PDF viewer (there are surely a few addons or extension, I just don't need this feature) and built-in codecs...
IMO only one thing speaks for Chrome against Chromium: as I said earlier in this topic you very rarely have the latest stable Chromium (v. 19 is out X v. 18 in sid repos), but you can always be up-to-date with Chrome.

giymo11 · 2012-06-03 03:25:01

Okay, joining the discussion:
I was a happy Opera-user for some years now, but lately it crashes more and more, so I tried Chrome (canary).. which feels way faster, and I absolutely love the extensions.
I tried Firefox (nightly) for a while as well, but Chrome feels faster and the extensions seem better compatible throughout the versions..
The only things I miss are the Opera mouse-gestures and the feature, that Nightly didn't load all Tabs at once.. <__<

so, my vote goes for Chromium. I mean, it's FOSS after all! ^^'

Stanie · 2012-06-03 06:26:54

giymo11 wrote:

Okay, joining the discussion:
I was a happy Opera-user for some years now, but lately it crashes more and more, so I tried Chrome (canary).. which feels way faster, and I absolutely love the extensions.
I tried Firefox (nightly) for a while as well, but Chrome feels faster and the extensions seem better compatible throughout the versions..
The only things I miss are the Opera mouse-gestures and the feature, that Nightly didn't load all Tabs at once.. <__<
so, my vote goes for Chromium. I mean, it's FOSS after all! ^^'

Yeah Opera, that was such a great browser. But since v. 11 it has started crashing and by implementing new features they disabled a few older ones I liked. So I switched mostly to FF. But I wouldn't live without mouse gestures, so here are the alternatives:
- In FF install All-in-One Gestures addon - even better than the original Opera gestures!
- In Chromium go with Pig Toolbox extension. Just a little warning here - in linux the best way to use it is to choose as gesture trigger middle click instead of right click

Beepmode · 2012-06-03 17:56:47

Iceweasel, because it's easier to customise (about:config) and because of the addons.

When I first installed #! I got Iceweasel and Chrome (and an 'Install Opera' menu item). I just installed Chromium to see how it differs from Chrome and was surprised it has it's own theme; instead of using the (default) #! theme it has a blue title bar with Windows-like buttons in the top-right corner!?

ivanovnegro · 2012-06-03 18:04:04

Beepmode wrote:

...it has it's own theme; instead of using the (default) #! theme it has a blue title bar with Windows-like buttons in the top-right corner!?

Also one of the things I disliked from the very beginning of trying Chrome/ium. But you can tweak it with some extensions and also look here:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … um-themes/

Beepmode · 2012-06-03 18:27:42

ivanovnegro wrote:

Beepmode wrote:
...it has it's own theme; instead of using the (default) #! theme it has a blue title bar with Windows-like buttons in the top-right corner!?
Also one of the things I disliked from the very beginning of trying Chrome/ium. But you can tweak it with some extensions and also look here:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … um-themes/

Thanks for the link. Looks good, but it would be even better if Chromium would just nicely integrate with the rest of the system by default. Chrome does do this.

el_koraco · 2012-06-03 18:30:15

Beepmode wrote:

Thanks for the link. Looks good, but it would be even better if Chromium would just nicely integrate with the rest of the system by default. Chrome does do this.

Choose "Use GTK theme" in the Chromium settings. I'm not sure under which tab it is, I haven't used Chrome in a while.

Beepmode · 2012-06-03 19:57:34

el_koraco wrote:

Beepmode wrote:
Thanks for the link. Looks good, but it would be even better if Chromium would just nicely integrate with the rest of the system by default. Chrome does do this.
Choose "Use GTK theme" in the Chromium settings. I'm not sure under which tab it is, I haven't used Chrome in a while.

Cheers, that looks much better! "Use GTK Theme" is under Options / Personal Stuff / Appearance.

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