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#101 2012-05-29 08:16:18

machinebacon
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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Edited, extended and pushed:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto_h … _wallpaper

Thank you in advance for checking and correcting if needed smile


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#102 2012-05-29 08:19:50

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

MB, you are truly a one man wiki band!

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#103 2012-05-29 08:56:22

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

^ big_smile some of the stuff has already be written, and I told myself to invest around an hour a day for the wiki maintanance wink


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#104 2012-05-29 18:22:15

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Edited and bumped:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/other_apps

The content of the site is open for discussion through http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/225407/#p225407


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#105 2012-05-29 18:32:51

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Created ADMIN Restore Grub ("How to restore GRUB2 with chroot")

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/r … ith_chroot


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#106 2012-05-30 17:16:02

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Machine - I'm amazed at your pace of work! This is just fantastic!
You know, I had this image of hundreds of wiki pages that a dozen volunteers would slowly work through over a period of a month or more, finally weeding out the obsolete pages, before even getting on to this classification stuff that you seem to have almost finished...

Anyway, that Wiki Editors' Guide is now quite superseded by events. What should we put in it now? Is it even needed any more?

I'll check over all the pages you mentioned and the Z-edit ones in the next few days, and, maybe more usefully, see if the namespace stuff can give us auto-generated menus for sub-categories. I'm optimistic, but need to play around with it a bit. Ultimately, the full alphabetic list can maybe be moved off the wiki front page, leaving only the list of category index pages?

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#107 2012-05-30 17:23:13

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

^ hahaha that penguin made me laugh. look at him being cute with his flag. all hail the Baconboy!

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#108 2012-05-30 17:34:18

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Thanks for the nice words, but really: relax guys, only together we are strong smile

Edit:

Extended, edited and pushed http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/firewall

Thanks in advance for correcting if needed smile

Last edited by machinebacon (2012-05-30 17:59:18)


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#109 2012-05-30 18:11:14

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

^ nice. made some grammar and sentence-related edits, and made the names of the different apps bold so they stand out more from the rest of the text. also mentioned gufw in the ufw-line, because it wasn't mentioned as an option but you did mention it at the end as a popular option, so that seemed confusing to me. all in all, great work.

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#110 2012-05-30 18:21:35

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

^ lol It's from the Debian site. Didn't mention gufw in the list as it is "only" a GUI for ufw.

Edited and pushed: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/d … extra_ttys


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#111 2012-05-30 18:23:48

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

big_smile

well it was weird having gufw mentioned in the end and not in the list of options. it is indeed only a GUI for ufw.

the tty-thing looks good.

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#112 2012-05-30 18:24:43

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Ok, it was weird.

roll

Yeah sorry, it's late here so my attention level is comparably low.

Last edited by machinebacon (2012-05-30 18:26:24)


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#113 2012-05-31 10:52:37

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

machinebacon wrote:

Maybe we can do it like this:

1) Edit a page. Remove the Z-edit tag. The article will slip into its category then.
2) Simply post here like "I made changes to page XXXXXX - please check". Minimal changes (change of URL, change of single words, removal of dead links) do not need to be notified on the forums.
3) Whenever other users have time, they check. The article can 'pass' by default.
4) If others change the content, they keep the old info alive, just simply add new info. Minimal changes (wording, removal of dead links) do not need to be notified on the forums.

This refers to sorting out the Z- pages? If so, it looks good.


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#114 2012-05-31 10:55:38

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Yes smile As you can see there are is not much left in the Z-edit (I'd love to see a revamp of the Install guides for Laptops) and in Z-obsolete there are some duplicates. The only headache I have for now is the Foreign language section big_smile They should have been put into their language-land from the beginning, but I think the original wiki was only English.


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#115 2012-05-31 11:37:33

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

MB, had a quick look through your new pages and everything looks good. smile
As you pointed out, though, adding and editing individual pages is something that should be going on all the time in a healthy wiki anyway...

edit: Tweaked the Iceweasel page slightly. Added a reference to Firefox and links to two forum threads on extensions. Old (2009) but still valid I thought.

Last edited by johnraff (2012-05-31 16:28:20)


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#116 2012-05-31 18:58:01

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Created from a forums post, and pushed:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/moc

cool Thanks to ivanovnegro for the howto.


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#117 2012-06-01 22:57:03

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Created from a forums post, and pushed:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/mpd

cool Thanks to ivanovnegro for the howto.


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#118 2012-06-02 10:08:28

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Sexy organization of the categories, but is there a way to implement a treelike structure to it?


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#119 2012-06-02 12:39:09

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

machinebacon wrote two times

cool Thanks to ivanovnegro for the howto.

cool

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#120 2012-06-02 13:11:05

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

sunfizz98 wrote:

Sexy organization of the categories, but is there a way to implement a treelike structure to it?

Hi sunfizz, with any luck, something can be done. There is already this: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/?do=index


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#121 2012-06-02 13:12:19

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

btw, I tweaked the wiki start page a little to reflect the current situation, and added a bit to the editors guide.


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#122 2012-06-02 15:53:32

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

^ Thank you, John.

A quick overview of what needs to be done next:

1) First of all, all Z-edit pages need to be edited so that they can slip into their designated categories.

2) As time allows, I'll create category pages with links to category-relevant content. These category pages will prevent the reader scrolling through the list.

This is most important for:
- those categories which have a lot of entries (Desktop and Various)
- the foreign language (especially Spanish) pages, which are now bundled. They should actually only appear when 'es' is selected - so if there will be a Spanish category page, it will contain the links to the spanish wiki pages in a more structured way and clearer organization.

3) The new quicklinks to the category (overview) pages will have to be included on the Wiki start page.

Last edited by machinebacon (2012-06-02 15:54:36)


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#123 2012-06-05 05:34:54

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Going through the top items in the Z-edit list, but haven't been able to do much yet:
*) opentracker - needs someone who understands bittorrent better than me.
*) Asus/acer/eee installs. These pages look excellent, but we need people with the respective hardware to go through the how-tos and edit if necessary.
*) CrunchBang Statler Installation Guide: this filename is 'crunchbang_installation_guide' but the title refers to Statler. What #! version should it be best rewritten for?
*) http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto_pages This is excellent!
*) Laptop Hardware support. Either just let it go in the regular list, or alternatively delete it, because it contains only a couple of links?
*) CPU undervolting - contains no useful info on how to actually do it...
*) Mutt - there are some mutt users here who can check this I'm sure.

Should I better have added these comments to the pages themselves?


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#124 2012-06-05 15:58:19

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

Hello John (congratulations on 2000 posts smile )

I think it is good that you wrote the points here, because here they get noticed smile

- opentracker: no idea what it is, I cannot follow the links (neither with nor without VPN). My suggestion is to archive it.
- EeePC install guides: most of the features like those of the Kuki kernel are already provided by default in newer kernels. I'll scan the forums and directly PM users if needed. big_smile
- Yes, this was specifically written for Statler Alpha.I'll do some linkfixing and remove the references to the Devel section, as well as adding the USB installation Guide and removing the unetbootin section. Is that OK?
- HowTo Master page is indeed excellent. Should be bumped as one of the first items in the Wiki overview (maybe when the category pages are finished)
- Laptop Hardware Support page: It's completely useless for now, and considering the vast amount of different laptop models, it will stay useless for a while. An alternative idea would be adding a kind of hardware compatibility list, or links to forums posts where users got certain models working. Any ideas? **
- CPU undervolting: I thought I'm the only one who doesn't understand it big_smile I think the idea of having a CPU page is good, so I might add or alternate this page and add something about cpufreq-set and the sensors. Okay?
- Mutt: there seem to be 2 pages for mutt, the other one is talking about gmail and mutt. maybe combine them? I'll have a look at it some time smile

Have a good evening!

Edit:
** I have opened a thread and updated the wiki accordingly: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/228332/

Last edited by machinebacon (2012-06-05 17:19:23)


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#125 2012-06-05 17:47:41

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Re: Doing Something about the Wiki

The wiki how-to master list is very nice. It links to this page on managing desktop icons. On this wiki page, the pcmanfm link at the top of the page is broken. Also, could this topic somewhere link to this topic I wrote on managing desktop icons with pcmanfm? Thanks.

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